Brian Hedger ‏@BrianHedger 46 seconds ago

Source: "Absolutely no truth" re @10PSharp using NTC to nix trade to Florida or that anything's close. Fla/Chi haven't talked in 2-3 wks.

I think it's time we move on from the Florida rumors and stop criticizing Sharp for things that he likely didn't do.
- BreakoutHockey

Sorry, but Brian Hedger doesn't exactly have his finger on the pulse of the NHL.

Without, yes I think they would care
- John Jaeckel

What is in it for your source? I'm not doubting you, but I'm just struggling to see why leaking these rumors to you is worth the potential real-life damage that could be done to his/her career. I'm glad that they do, but it just feels like an unnecessary risk for them.

He wanted an assurance they would deal him (North) if they weren't competitive (i.e. fairly well positioned for the playoffs) by the trade deadline.
- John Jaeckel

Thanks for the response, JJ. Wow, so the rumor of him wanting to be dealt to a potential contender if they weren't in the playoff hunt was true. Interesting.

All the denials are coming out now because the deal died, probably this afternoon. FWIW, Florida wanted him bad, he (and his wife especially) did not want to be in FL. They wanted him there long term. He wanted an out clause for THIS season—well a verbal agreement—based on how the team performed. They couldn't work it out.

OF COURSE they're going to say he would waive his NTC easily. They absolutely don't want other teams knowing Sharp is being picky. Destroys the demand.

Funny how all this comes out this afternoon, from all the usual suspects.

56 is an awful number.
- TTtime

56 is an amazing number...just standing up for the numbers 5 and 6 and especially when they are combined together.

That Grendel had some grit to his game, too.
- John Jaeckel

He's a bit too much of a goon for me. If he had his head on straight, imagine him on a line with Unferth.

What is in it for your source? I'm not doubting you, but I'm just struggling to see why leaking these rumors to you is worth the potential real-life damage that could be done to his/her career. I'm glad that they do, but it just feels like an unnecessary risk for them.
- BreakoutHockey

Honestly, that particular source never told me who they are. I figured it out. And I could be wrong. But I am 99.9% certain I'm right, and they know I would never divulge it regardless.

I'm not going to answer any more questions on this either, sorry.

Sorry, but Brian Hedger doesn't exactly have his finger on the pulse of the NHL.
- MexicoHawk

Both teams are getting the message out now through their usual avenues: Myers, Hedger, Richards.

The deal died, now it never happened.

All the denials are coming out now because the deal died, probably this afternoon. FWIW, Florida wanted him bad, he (and his wife especially) did not want to be in FL. They wanted him there long term. He wanted an out clause for THIS season—well a verbal agreement—based on how the team performed. They couldn't work it out.

OF COURSE they're going to say he would waive his NTC easily. They absolutely don't want other teams knowing Sharp is being picky. Destroys the demand.

Funny how all this comes out this afternoon, from all the usual suspects.
- John Jaeckel

Crazy stuff. I think Sharp would have worked out well on the Panthers. I'm thinking he'll be staying here and Crow might be on his way out. What do you think, JJ?

Seems the longer nothing is done, the more possible Crow being moved gets. He's probably more in demand right now than Sharp. Maybe the Sharp thing is cover fire while they quietly shop Crow. It would be easy keep the attention on # 10, since everyone is expecting him to be moved.

What the heck could his demand have been? I know there was the rumor that he wanted to be signed long-term immediately, but I find it hard to believe that was what was holding them up. There has to be something more.
- Hank3Henshaw

He wanted a guarantee that if FLA, in the coming season, wasn't in the playoff hunt by the trade deadline, that they would agree to move him...and NORTH! FLA wanted Sharp for the long term, as a face of the franchise and as an example of their commitment to win playoff series.

This probably the most Tropp will be spoke about in his whole career. He was in the deal to dazzle the masses, like Morin. Its so SB can say.."look at how much I got for Saad". He is an AHL player. The guy wasn't good enough to play on a crappy Sabres' team. CLB picked him up because they were desperate for bodies.
- TTtime

I saw Morin and Tropp as contracts a budget team didn't want to carry. The fact Morin is being traded back to a team he requested a trade from sort of looks like hot potato. Never saw either as anything but filler. Not really sure anyone else has either. Both are really just $1.4m that needs to be waived or buried if they stay.

Really, without? I would think management would LOVE to get free fan input on potential deals, signings, etc. Imagine if they thought:

What could we get for Patrick Kane? Oh, Players X, Y, and Z? Let's see what a sample of our paying customers think.

I think that would be invaluable information and would somewhat impact their decision.
- DMCsPulledHammy

Uhmmmmm, no.

Honestly, that particular source never told me who they are. I figured it out. And I could be wrong. But I am 99.9% certain I'm right, and they know I would never divulge it regardless.

I'm not going to answer any more questions on this either, sorry.
- John Jaeckel

NIIIIICE

He wanted a guarantee that if FLA, in the coming season, wasn't in the playoff hunt by the trade deadline, that they would agree to move him...and NORTH! FLA wanted Sharp for the long term, as a face of the franchise and as an example of their commitment to win playoff series.
- MexicoHawk

So Sharp isn't a team player! Well, he will not be traded now. What does that do for him in the Chicago dressing room?

So Sharp isn't a team player! Well, he will not be traded now. What does that do for him in the Chicago dressing room?
- powerenforcer

Nothing. Players aren't going to fault a guy for wanting to be part of a good team. Might get on the poop side of management though.

All the denials are coming out now because the deal died, probably this afternoon. FWIW, Florida wanted him bad, he (and his wife especially) did not want to be in FL. They wanted him there long term. He wanted an out clause for THIS season—well a verbal agreement—based on how the team performed. They couldn't work it out.

OF COURSE they're going to say he would waive his NTC easily. They absolutely don't want other teams knowing Sharp is being picky. Destroys the demand.

Funny how all this comes out this afternoon, from all the usual suspects.
- John Jaeckel

>Is there a chance the Hawks have pursued the Sharp send-off backwards?
>Meaning -- did they first pursue the teams they knew (from Sharp) that Sharp would go to?
>Or did they try to create a strong market for Sharp and then "force" him to take a trade?
>Is there a chance the Hawks badly managed this process?
>Sure looks that way

He wanted an assurance they would deal him (North) if they weren't competitive (i.e. fairly well positioned for the playoffs) by the trade deadline.
- John Jaeckel

So who does this realistically leave then? The Islanders? Habs? NYR/Detroit/Philly?

Stan should just take the best offer at this point.

Old man and the sea?
- nurk

Better.

Uh…no… I'm still impressed you know something about this, but I think you are confusing some of the theories and how they operate…

But back to hockey -- where did you play?
- DMChi2010

Uh...yes...I am not confusing anything...if you have not taken the time to understand the results from the double slit experiment and have gone through a system of public education, then I can understand why you might think as you do. If you would like to talk more about this, simply private message me and I would be happy to discuss Quantum Physics with you!

I am not sure how much of what you wrote/copied you understand, but what you are attempting to "argue", I think, is that I was insinuating that Einstein is the father of Quantum physics? Is that it? That's not what I said or inferred. Einstein was mentioned because he demonstrated the essence of the scientific method! Which is if you posit a notion that is accepted as "truth" (his theory of relativity for example) and if it is then found to be inaccurate or not holistic, you laud those who discovered its limitations or errors and seek to find new answers. This is what Einstein did and it demonstrated his character, integrity and brilliance.

Now for the Double Slit experiment, all matter is nothing more, ultimately, than photons of light, however, in many of its recreations (if you want to observe it from the physical world) actual physical materials were used as well to prove the point, which you don't seem to understand. Yes, the solid materials used responded both as a solid substance and infinite waves of possibilities, but that is THE ESSENCE of the experiment, that EVERY TIME you observe the particles, they act as a solid matter. However, EVERY TIME you do NOT observe the particles they act as infinite waves of possibilities and thus cannot be solid! That is what matters...and this is what Dr. Schrodinger was basing his theories of predictability on! The same goes for Dr. Feyman's studies and comments as well relating to the Unified field. The universe IS random because all matter is not solid, rather waves of infinite possibilities which exist in a two-dimensional unified field of sorts where everything that has or can happen already exists in one moment. You can't attempt to "speak" for either Schrodinger or Feyman by randomly copying and pasting their assertions from Wikipedia. If you actually wish to engage in a proper conversation about Quantum Physics and the importance to humanity of the double slit experiment, please private message me and we can continue. Beyond Hawk's hockey, it is my passion.

As for Down the Rabbit Hole and What the Bleep Do We Know? They are ABSOLUTELY incredible resources from which to start! They are brilliant, interesting, funny, poignant, ACCURATE and insightful because they speculate beyond simply the bonds of purely science and into the metaphysical or what some would call the spiritual, which most Quantum Physicists today believe is where the next step of answers lie...and after that message from the universal scientific community, now back to hockey!
- MexicoHawk

As someone who majored in physics, I can only say that this is not correct. The mathematics is very elegant, and I think it's great that books like "The Elegant Universe" by Brian Greene do what they can to convey mathematics to the general public. But there is a lot lost when these ideas are put into mere words.

Full disclosure: I also teach physics and AP Physics at the high school level. The introductory class is a lot more fun in many ways because we get to talk about some of this stuff. But I build up the idea throughout the whole year that the math should predict things about the natural world. For gravity, electricity and magnetism, etc. we have billiard ball physics in which the math predicts extremely well what will happen in a system… For sound waves and water waves, the math also predicts how these things will behave, die out the farther they travel, etc. For quantum physics, the double slit experiment shows that sub-atomic particles behave like waves AND like particles. In other words, the math we use is phenomenally accurate in predicting these wave-like and particle-like behaviors.

But…but… is an electron a particle or a wave, things that I can conceptualize more easily? Well, the words particle and wave are just represented by mathematics… That's all there is to it. The metaphysical stuff is hooey… mere speculation… It's fun to think about, but you don't want to put too much stock into it…

Okay, I'm done. Has Patrick Sharp been traded yet?

He wanted a guarantee that if FLA, in the coming season, wasn't in the playoff hunt by the trade deadline, that they would agree to move him...and NORTH! FLA wanted Sharp for the long term, as a face of the franchise and as an example of their commitment to win playoff series.
- MexicoHawk

That really doesn't seem unreasonable. Assuming his offensive output improved he could probably be moved at the TDL for more than Dale would have to pay now.

56 is an amazing number...just standing up for the numbers 5 and 6 and especially when they are combined together.
- MexicoHawk

LOL. It was my number in football and 2 of my nephews wore it. lol

So Sharp isn't a team player! Well, he will not be traded now. What does that do for him in the Chicago dressing room?
- powerenforcer

There is no such thing as a team player when it comes to contract negotiations or removing NTC's. There can't be. These are all business transactions so there shouldn't be. You ask for a NTC for exactly this situation. The team wants to send you somewhere you and your family does not want to go, you get to say no. And nobody in the locker room would care because they would all do the same thing if they had one. Players shouldn't do the team any favors because the teams won't do them any. The cap sees to that even if the owners wanted to be "nice." If the best deal on the table was from Arizona and he didn't have a NTC where do you think he would be right now? It's a business, you use every advantage you have because the guy on the other side of the table sure is.

Honestly, that particular source never told me who they are. I figured it out. And I could be wrong. But I am 99.9% certain I'm right, and they know I would never divulge it regardless.

I'm not going to answer any more questions on this either, sorry.
- John Jaeckel

Okay… now I'm more curious… Is this a telephone number that sends an occasional text? Or is it an email address that sends an occasional email? [email][email protected][/email] ?

Sciencebuzz + Sharpbuzz

Amazing!