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Sandus
Joined: 12.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:30 PM ET
GREEEAAAT. And what has he done yet?

- Trammelt

About as much as any other defenseman does at 20 years old.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jul 6 @ 6:30 PM ET
He would not play in the AHL. That's why he went to the K to begin with
- JRoenick97


Yes, we know. It has been discussed here whether he would still maintain that demand with the Hawks vs the Isles. I think the trade may indicate he did.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 6 @ 6:30 PM ET
Don't really think Nilsson had any relevance to the Leddy trade bc it seemed like a G swap of Simpson & Nilsson. Pokka is the prize of that trade, throw-ins & swaps don't count.....
- Ur Not Me

Goaltenders in trade don't count for much. When it gets down to moving bodies with little potential to play in the NHL the 2 GM's take one goalie and give one back - no other reason than just because they do.

EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:31 PM ET
GREEEAAAT. And what has he done yet?

- Trammelt


Made the AHL All-Rookie Team this season, and looks to have some upside. Depending on how far he progresses between now and camp, he MIGHT (and I'm stretching that word) get some serious consideration for a job in camp.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:32 PM ET
Patience. I think he's still a year away. Maybe gets a shot this year but think it'll be 2016-2017 season.
- MNHawk


Agreed. However, I would expect that he'll get a look sometime this coming season.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jul 6 @ 6:34 PM ET
Don't really think Nilsson had any relevance to the Leddy trade bc it seemed like a G swap of Simpson & Nilsson. Pokka is the prize of that trade, throw-ins & swaps don't count.....
- Ur Not Me


What the trade netted the Hawks is what counts here. Brennan was unloaded for a career AHLer (like Brennan). Simpson wasn't expected to make it here. Nillsen had more value so hardly a swap.

Nillsen had a strong KHL year but the Hawks probably like Coughlin. He was a 5th rounder but sounds a bit like SHaw - a late bloomer. Pokka has done nothing yet in the NHL but he was the prize for us. Time will tell what the prize was worth.
MNHawk
Location: Richfield, MN
Joined: 07.18.2014

Jul 6 @ 6:38 PM ET
What the trade netted the Hawks is what counts here. Brennan was unloaded for a career AHLer (like Brennan). Simpson wasn't expected to make it here. Nillsen had more value so hardly a swap.

Nillsen had a strong KHL year but the Hawks probably like Coughlin. He was a 5th rounder but sounds a bit like SHaw - a late bloomer. Pokka has done nothing yet in the NHL but he was the prize for us. Time will tell what the prize was worth.

- tredbrta


Well, don't forget they are getting the kid from Edmonton. He's going to college next year at Boston so I'm sure he's pretty good. Decent size, 6'2". So the Hawks got something for the Nilsson kid.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jul 6 @ 6:39 PM ET
I believe the 7 Canadian teams account for 35% of HRR
While the other 23 make up the rest
A team placed in Quebec or another in ontario will surpass Seattle or Portland

Logical moves of phx and fla would bolster the league very quickly

- MTL1

Discussion on NHL Radio today that Houston is actually a very viable future NHL city, albeit with no current ownership group. 4th biggest USA market, high income due to corporate HQs and oil and gas revenue, plus a history of hockey dating back to Gordie Howe and his sons, with the Houston Aeroes. Plus, they were almost included in the NHL-WHA merger.
dstainer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 6 @ 6:40 PM ET
Discussion on NHL Radio today that Houston is actually a very viable future NHL city, albeit with no current ownership group. 4th biggest USA market, high income due to corporate HQs and oil and gas revenue, plus a history of hockey dating back to Gordie Howe and his sons, with the Houston Aeroes. Plus, they were almost included in the NHL-WHA merger.
- scottak


They do have a bad ass logo in my opinion
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:43 PM ET
They do have a bad ass logo in my opinion
- dstainer


Houston has the building, the team name, and the history (WHA-IHL-AHL). Does it have the group willing to pony up the money and operate a team?

The same thing was in the news a day or two ago about Kansas City with the lack of an ownership group.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 6 @ 6:43 PM ET
What the trade netted the Hawks is what counts here. Brennan was unloaded for a career AHLer (like Brennan). Simpson wasn't expected to make it here. Nillsen had more value so hardly a swap.

Nillsen had a strong KHL year but the Hawks probably like Coughlin. He was a 5th rounder but sounds a bit like SHaw - a late bloomer. Pokka has done nothing yet in the NHL but he was the prize for us. Time will tell what the prize was worth.

- tredbrta


The Leddy trade was similar to what you will see for Bickell and Sharp...

Those are "have to' trades anything gotten in return that could be considered useful is a bonus.
Elliots07
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Bellaire, TX
Joined: 11.21.2011

Jul 6 @ 6:44 PM ET
They do have a bad ass logo in my opinion
- dstainer


Did have a great logo
Team left over a year ago
Fun times going to those games

Never missed one when the boys were in town

When j scott was on the team there were some short bouts

Love a team here but the owner of the arena hates hockey
He pretty much did what zona is going through, so they moved to Iowa.

Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 6 @ 6:45 PM ET
Discussion on NHL Radio today that Houston is actually a very viable future NHL city, albeit with no current ownership group. 4th biggest USA market, high income due to corporate HQs and oil and gas revenue, plus a history of hockey dating back to Gordie Howe and his sons, with the Houston Aeroes. Plus, they were almost included in the NHL-WHA merger.
- scottak


Interesting but...I think Seattle is kind of lurking as everyone focuses on LV.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:49 PM ET
Did have a great logo
Team left over a year ago
Fun times going to those games

Never missed one when the boys were in town

When j scott was on the team there were some short bouts

Love a team here but the owner of the arena hates hockey
He pretty much did what zona is going through, so they moved to Iowa.

- Elliots07


When Houston moved to Iowa, I read something that the owner of the Toyota Center would only be willing to use the building for hockey if it involved an NHL team.

Is that true, or does the building ownership just not want hockey in the building in general?
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jul 6 @ 6:54 PM ET
Interesting but...I think Seattle is kind of lurking as everyone focuses on LV.
- Al

Agreed, and no owner in HOU sort of makes the point moot. But could be an alternative for the Phoenix/Arizona franchise, if they need an alternative.

The NHL could also create a southern division with TB, FLA, HOU, DAL, NSH, CAR
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:55 PM ET
Per JJ on Twitter Sharp should soon be asked to waive to come here. Trocheck going the other way.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 6 @ 6:55 PM ET
Maybe it will be Sharp and Versteeg for a couple of low picks or Shawn Thornton.
- RickJ

I mean "salary dump" from the standpoint that FLA doesn't have to send salary back, still should be a decent return regardless
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
Agreed, and no owner in HOU sort of makes the point moot. But could be an alternative for the Phoenix/Arizona franchise, if they need an alternative.

The NHL could also create a southern division with TB, FLA, HOU, DAL, NSH, CAR

- scottak

John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
Per JJ on Twitter Sharp should soon be asked to waive to come here. Trocheck going the other way.
- Panthers88

I said nothing about Trocheck, I believe Sharp has been asked already
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
Per JJ on Twitter Sharp should soon be asked to waive to come here. Trocheck going the other way.
- Panthers88


Where did this info come from?
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 6 @ 6:58 PM ET
And they are on the lookout at Johnny's for anyone who shows up with red/white pads.


- Al


And a Dee Fondy first baseman's Trapper's Mitt for his glove hand?
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:58 PM ET
I said nothing about Trocheck, I believe Sharp has been asked already
- John Jaeckel

I just got home from work and my Twitter is blowing up. Nice to see a responsive blogger on this mess of a site! And that's waive to come here??
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 6 @ 6:58 PM ET
Per JJ on Twitter Sharp should soon be asked to waive to come here. Trocheck going the other way.
- Panthers88

Would have thought trocheck would be a target if saad was still in Chicago. Kind of a piny sized player. Personally i prefer mccoshen but im not a coach, gm, or scout. #Instanwetrust
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 6 @ 6:58 PM ET
Agreed, and no owner in HOU sort of makes the point moot. But could be an alternative for the Phoenix/Arizona franchise, if they need an alternative.

The NHL could also create a southern division with TB, FLA, HOU, DAL, NSH, CAR

- scottak


Not sure how that "division" would fit with an Eastern and Western Conference arrangement.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 6 @ 6:59 PM ET
Oilers trade LaBarbera to Hawks for future consideration.

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