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sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jul 6 @ 2:26 PM ET
I don't think people are female doging about losing one prospect in particular. I'm a little disappointed in losing Zadorov, but I can live with it under the principle that you have to give to get. However, what is a little concerning is the sheer number of prospects that Tim Murray has unloaded, and they're all decently high picks.

Armia, Compher, Grigorenko, Lemieux, and Zadorov were all drafted in the first two rounds. That doesn't even take into consideration the two first rounders, number 31, and Tyler Myers that was traded away. That's a lot of personnel that was given up. Now, there is a good chance these trades could pan out, but the reality is, Tim Murray has a lot of work to do to restock what was once a full prospect cupboard. I was hoping Murray would trade a few prospects and picks to try to improve the team. What I didn't expect was for him to trade almost all of them.

- buffalofan19


If he trades for a top four LHD than he's not done yet. You can kiss Larsson, and one of Baily, Bap, Fash good-bye, probably Foligno too.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:26 PM ET
who was Zads partner? Risto? Love what he brings to the table as well, but Risto has his young issue such as Zads. Both were leaned on to do heavy lifting together.

Zads is still unproven and needs more development but now he will have either partners in more proven and established dmen in Johnson or Barrie who do the heavy lifting for their pairings. I think that gives him a really good chance at meeting his potential

- DDM-Coga



The only thing that will keep Zads from becoming a pretty dominate defenseman is himself IMO.

He has a "Pronger" type play in his game.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
huge improvement.
- mhp



Trottier is a good coach.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
First O'Reilly's brother, now this.

I wonder if the head coach at BU has been offered a job in Buffalo's front office, or maybe Eichel's father.

- Der Kaiser



It gets curoser and curoser. Film at 11...
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:28 PM ET
Vastly improved, but we had to give up 800 prospects to get them.
- Der Kaiser


I think it was 1,000 2nd rounders for the rest of the Sabres existence in the league
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 6 @ 2:28 PM ET
Zadorov was one of my favorite players. A combo of Skating, Size, and dude is mean! I love his edge. When he grows into his frame and has elite coaching, he will be a star, maybe an All-Star.

You should be very happy with him. He showed more fire and toughness in his 1st year than Myers did his entire time here. We often forget that our Top Dman a literal giant on skates was on the ice when Miller got frieght trained by Lucic, it was embarrasing for all players on the ice but I expect my Dmen to be first in his face and Lucic wouldn't be able to reach Myers if he had just grabbed him and starting throwing haymakers, which is what he should have done!

- MEBSabresFAN


Pomminville
Vanek
Gaustad
Sekera
Myers

I died a little bit that day, and everyone of those five should have too.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:30 PM ET
The only thing that will keep Zads from becoming a pretty dominate defenseman is himself IMO.

He has a "Pronger" type play in his game.

- dadeadhead



This ^^^^

I still make the trade. O"Reilly was needed by the Sabres more than any other team. This management knows how valuable Eichel and Rinehart will be for the next decade.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:31 PM ET
Zadorov was one of my favorite players. A combo of Skating, Size, and dude is mean! I love his edge. When he grows into his frame and has elite coaching, he will be a star, maybe an All-Star.

You should be very happy with him. He showed more fire and toughness in his 1st year than Myers did his entire time here. We often forget that our Top Dman a literal giant on skates was on the ice when Miller got frieght trained by Lucic, it was embarrasing for all players on the ice but I expect my Dmen to be first in his face and Lucic wouldn't be able to reach Myers if he had just grabbed him and starting throwing haymakers, which is what he should have done!

- MEBSabresFAN


Adam Foote is our "Defensive Consultant" so if anyone can relate to Zads and his mean streak, its going to be Foote.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:32 PM ET
Pomminville
Vanek
Gaustad
Sekera
Myers

I died a little bit that day, and everyone of those five should have too.

- Der Kaiser



Me too, interesting, they are all playing for other teams now..........
BackSlider
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man, CO
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 6 @ 2:32 PM ET
Adam Foote is our "Defensive Consultant" so if anyone can relate to Zads and his mean streak, its going to be Foote.
- DDM-Coga



That head coach you got there seems to have a bit of vinegar to him as well.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:33 PM ET
This ^^^^

I still make the trade. O"Reilly was needed by the Sabres more than any other team. This management knows how valuable Eichel and Rinehart will be for the next decade.

- MEBSabresFAN


The only people that dont like this trade for either side or the extension are the fans of the 28 other teams. I haven't noticed really any negative reactions from Av Fans or Sabre fans from what has happened to our teams in the past week based on this move
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 6 @ 2:34 PM ET
Adam Foote is our "Defensive Consultant" so if anyone can relate to Zads and his mean streak, its going to be Foote.
- DDM-Coga


are there any non former avs on the staff?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:34 PM ET
That head coach you got there seems to have a bit of vinegar to him as well.
- BackSlider


and he is the Russian whisperer...Radulov and Grigorenko is juniors, Varly with the Avs, the guy knows how to get the most of his russians...I see the trend continuing
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:35 PM ET
Adam Foote is our "Defensive Consultant" so if anyone can relate to Zads and his mean streak, its going to be Foote.
- DDM-Coga


Thx to your post last night, I enjoyed the entire 1st game of the Aves Playoff series last night against the Wild.

Loved it!

P.S. O'Reilly was a BEAST!

P.S. Barrie was awesome. It really reminded me how Ottawa targeted Tim Connelly the 05/06 year when he was playing at an absoute ELITE level. After that hit he would eventually come back and play well but we would never see that level form him again.

How is Barrie doing now? I just haven't watched much of the Aves
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 6 @ 2:37 PM ET
The only thing that will keep Zads from becoming a pretty dominate defenseman is himself IMO.

He has a "Pronger" type play in his game.

- dadeadhead

IMO Zadorov will always leave you wanting more.

I don't see him mentally being a Pronger type, physically yes
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:37 PM ET
The only people that dont like this trade for either side or the extension are the fans of the 28 other teams. I haven't noticed really any negative reactions from Av Fans or Sabre fans from what has happened to our teams in the past week based on this move
- DDM-Coga



It was a "Hockey Trade" if I've ever seen one honestly.

Should work out well for both teams.

I really hope ROR and Ennis end up on the same line. Ennis is becoming a 200 ft player and a pain in the ass to play against. Those two will be fun to watch on the same line.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:37 PM ET
are there any non former avs on the staff?
- hubie


not many...Craig Billington is Assistant GM, Brett Clark is a development coach...Roy, Sakic, Foote. Deadmarsh still acts as an unofficial local amatuer scout (he was a coach but bc of concussions he just cant travel)
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jul 6 @ 2:38 PM ET
I don't know much about him tbh. He coached Reinhart out there is all I know.
- mhp


Incorrect. Reinhart played on the Kootenay Ice. Lambert coached the Kelowna Rockets. The Rockets lost in the Memorial Cup final to Oshawa.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:38 PM ET
Thx to your post last night, I enjoyed the entire 1st game of the Aves Playoff series last night against the Wild.

Loved it!

P.S. O'Reilly was a BEAST!

P.S. Barrie was awesome. It really reminded me how Ottawa targeted Tim Connelly the 05/06 year when he was playing at an absoute ELITE level. After that hit he would eventually come back and play well but we would never see that level form him again.

How is Barrie doing now? I just haven't watched much of the Aves

- MEBSabresFAN


Barrie dominated last year, had a 50 point campaign pulling around a boat anchor in Nate Guenin...give him a guy like Zads who can skate and play D, that is going ot be one very scary pairing
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 6 @ 2:38 PM ET
Me too, interesting, they are all playing for other teams now..........
- MEBSabresFAN


So is the guy who drafted them all and gave them all contracts.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
Incorrect. Reinhart played on the Kootenay Ice. Lambert coached the Kelowna Rockets. The Rockets lost in the Memorial Cup final to Oshawa.
- SabreWest


Good call Westie.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
IMO Zadorov will always leave you wanting more.

I don't see him mentally being a Pronger type, physically yes

- sbroads24




It's why I said type.

He has the ability to play the game like Pronger. We'll call it Pronger lite. The issue is will he ever get out of his own way to get there?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 6 @ 2:40 PM ET
not many...Craig Billington is Assistant GM, Brett Clark is a development coach...Roy, Sakic, Foote. Fatmarsh still acts as an unofficial local amatuer scout (he was a coach but bc of concussions he just cant travel)
- DDM-Coga



FTFY
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:40 PM ET
not many...Craig Billington is Assistant GM, Brett Clark is a development coach...Roy, Sakic, Foote. Deadmarsh still acts as an unofficial local amatuer scout (he was a coach but bc of concussions he just cant travel)
- DDM-Coga



It is a shame because he was a pretty good player that had it cut short do to it.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:41 PM ET
FTFY
- ImThatGuy


thats me
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