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Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jul 6 @ 5:43 PM ET
leafs looking good, won't be long until they're making a cup run
- Flyfreaky

They think they can trade MAttthiaS to get some teams future Like trading AMac to a cap strapped team like the Hawks
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 6 @ 6:10 PM ET
slightly different situation
- Schenn-Sational!

splain please
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 6 @ 6:12 PM ET
They think they can trade MAttthiaS to get some teams future Like trading AMac to a cap strapped team like the Hawks
- Landsbergfan

5 words i never want to see again:

amac
l.schenn
vinny
umberger
holmgren
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 6 @ 7:09 PM ET
splain please
- Flyfreaky

massive multi-year contracts rarely get dealt on deadline day.

Affordable pending UFAs, on the other hand, do, and often go for a premium.
PoketheBear
Boston Bruins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.09.2014

Jul 6 @ 7:22 PM ET
But McDavid... Talbot... Sekera...
- geta02it


This years edition of first overall, ufa defensemen they overpaid and some other teams backup goalie.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 6 @ 7:43 PM ET
what does that even mean? Metro division by far is the toughest outside of the Devs & Hurricanes. I See at least 4 teams from that division making the playoffs and however it plays out nobody should be shocked one way or the other.
- Vukota


So half the teams in the eastern conference playoffs are coming from one of the two divisions in the eastern conference?

#dominance

Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 6 @ 8:11 PM ET
So half the teams in the eastern conference playoffs are coming from one of the two divisions in the eastern conference?

#dominance

- Dozzer

xXCODSOLDIERXx
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Jabroni beating pie eating,eye, AB
Joined: 11.01.2009

Jul 6 @ 8:15 PM ET
Man I am gonna laugh when this roster over achieves this year and makes the playoffs....they are signing a lot of heart and soul type players who may bring it

Weirder things have happened am I right?
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 6 @ 8:17 PM ET
massive multi-year contracts rarely get dealt on deadline day.

Affordable pending UFAs, on the other hand, do, and often go for a premium.

- Schenn-Sational!

yeah, but kessel and dion would have brought a much better return to contending teams and would have helped the leafs tank for mcdavid (which was way more important than getting a great return for those turds)
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 6 @ 8:21 PM ET
yeah, but kessel and dion would have brought a much better return to contending teams and would have helped the leafs tank for mcdavid (which was way more important than getting a great return for those turds)
- Flyfreaky

since a trade didn't go down, despite the Leafs looking to make one, I'd argue this isn't true.

And given the way the team was playing, they really couldn't have done worse than they did.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 6 @ 8:27 PM ET
since a trade didn't go down, despite the Leafs looking to make one, I'd argue this isn't true.

And given the way the team was playing, they really couldn't have done worse than they did.

- Schenn-Sational!

i think i would have taken less for kessel and dion way before the deadline, cause i'm sure as bad as things were with them, they would have been much worse without them

mcdavid was worth the effort to try that approach
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 6 @ 8:37 PM ET
i think i would have taken less for kessel and dion way before the deadline, cause i'm sure as bad as things were with them, they would have been much worse without them

mcdavid was worth the effort to try that approach

- Flyfreaky

With Horachek, it honestly wouldn't have mattered. Kessel was almost a non-factor under him, and Phaneuf was still misused as a defense-first guy.

And again, a mid-season trade for a contract like that is very, very rare.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 6 @ 8:40 PM ET
With Horachek, it honestly wouldn't have mattered. Kessel was almost a non-factor under him, and Phaneuf was still misused as a defense-first guy.

And again, a mid-season trade for a contract like that is very, very rare.

- Schenn-Sational!

i'm not disagreeing with you, although the fire sale should have included more than just kessel and dion

it should have included bozak, lupul, robidas and polak
Rysko81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.02.2010

Jul 6 @ 9:54 PM ET
(He played for us for many years... I know all about him)
- Panthers88

He scored more in Van than he ever did in Florida this past year. Perhaps he's better than when you had him. He was playing on a better team in Van though that's for sure.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 6 @ 10:04 PM ET
i'm not disagreeing with you, although the fire sale should have included more than just kessel and dion

it should have included bozak, lupul, robidas and polak

- Flyfreaky


Unfortunately, there are only 3 salary retention slots; and the leafs have used 2.

3 of those last 4 guys are salary retention candidates .... but probably buyouts waiting to happen.
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jul 6 @ 11:01 PM ET
Hard to comprehend thinking this signing is a bad move.
we let the guy net 15 goals or so in 60 games, and move him for a late 2nd at the deadline.

Leafs fans will have to put up with the "lucky to get a 3rd or 4th" BS much like the Winnik scenario. What did he bring back again?
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jul 6 @ 11:04 PM ET
They think they can trade MAttthiaS to get some teams future Like trading AMac to a cap strapped team like the Hawks
- Landsbergfan


It hurts to see the leafs get out of a lot of years and dollars (ie Clarkson, Kessel) doesnt it?

Umberger,Read,AMac,Vinny
TheHoser
St Louis Blues
Location: Innisfil, ON
Joined: 06.20.2015

Jul 6 @ 11:33 PM ET
Yeah Pittsburgh pulled shenanigans there
- Popcorn Kid


No more than trading away a starting goalie to ensure you finish last.

Oops.
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jul 6 @ 11:46 PM ET
Bottom Dwellers? I'll go with:

25. Florida
26. New Jersey
27. Edmonton
28. Carolina
29. Toronto
30. Arizona

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



sweet, put the flyers at 20. not good enough to make the playoffs, not bad enough to get a top pick
user1
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 05.23.2015

Jul 6 @ 11:48 PM ET
Hard to comprehend thinking this signing is a bad move.
we let the guy net 15 goals or so in 60 games, and move him for a late 2nd at the deadline.

Leafs fans will have to put up with the "lucky to get a 3rd or 4th" BS much like the Winnik scenario. What did he bring back again?

- GardinerExpress


All these short term deals are great moves by Toronto
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jul 7 @ 12:37 AM ET
just like they traded kessel and dionp at the deadline last year
- Flyfreaky



Uhh don't think that was ever the plan!! They have long term deals, this is Polaks last year! Keep up will ya!
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jul 7 @ 12:40 AM ET
Man I am gonna laugh when this roster over achieves this year and makes the playoffs....they are signing a lot of heart and soul type players who may bring it

Weirder things have happened am I right?

- xXCODSOLDIERXx



Sure they may overachieve and be in the playoff run! That only brings the value of the players up.......then you trade them at the trade deadline! You don't keep them so you can make the first round and lose!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 12:43 AM ET
Eklund: Leafs Sign Shawn Matthias. 1 year. Much expected Today
- Eklund

it was a very busy day


BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:20 AM ET
True....but why would a team pay 800k plus a pic or prospect for a player that couldn't be found with a microscope in the playoff loss to Calgary... There's a reason teams didn't snap him up right away
- Bullfrog77


I love this stuff... so now the Canuck faithful want to blame Matthias for the playoff loss... ya a guy getting third line minutes was the reason for the loss.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 7 @ 5:18 AM ET
Unfortunately, there are only 3 salary retention slots; and the leafs have used 2.

3 of those last 4 guys are salary retention candidates .... but probably buyouts waiting to happen.

- Tumbleweed

i'm sure you could have moved them for a mid/low draft pick
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