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willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jul 5 @ 7:08 PM ET
If Looch gets 6mil. Ill stop watching Kings games. Im so sick of these types of players gettting that kind of money.
- poisondhearts37

It did work pretty well for you guys so far, right? I mean a few cups means you're doing something right.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jul 5 @ 9:12 PM ET
Oh plz Hawks would have handled LA if they hypothetically would have made the playoffs. You are over rating Lucic and the Kings in general.
- SimpleJack







No.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:23 PM ET
Should be fun now that the Ducks got both the big cry babies from Vancouver.
- poisondhearts37

Kesler, cry baby. yes. Bieksa is a heart and soul player and Anaheim just aquired a very solid locker room guy.

Bieksa is a very good person and because of his leadership could potentially put the ducks over the top.

If its leadership they're looking for, they got it in Bieksa.
rubberduckies
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington beach, CA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:30 PM ET
High priced rental player I think....6/5 says he a San Jose Shark next Season
yzermaneely
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Poway, CA
Joined: 12.17.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:39 PM ET
Should be fun now that the Ducks got both the big cry babies from Vancouver.
- poisondhearts37

I just want this on the record. You think Perry and Kesler are cheap-shot players. But Lucic is the man, right?
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:54 PM ET
I just want this on the record. You think Perry and Kesler are cheap-shot players. But Lucic is the man, right?
- yzermaneely

Na. I nvr said that. But. I will say this about Perry. He has layed off those lower back xchecks he always used to do. But I said cry babies. Nothing about cheap shots.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:17 PM ET
I just want this on the record. You think Perry and Kesler are cheap-shot players. But Lucic is the man, right?
- yzermaneely

Yup, now run along
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:19 PM ET
Na. I nvr said that. But. I will say this about Perry. He has layed off those lower back xchecks he always used to do. But I said cry babies. Nothing about cheap shots.
- poisondhearts37

He read cry babies and thought he saw cheap shots..,. I'll go ahead and say Perry is cheap as poop though, I already have, and I'm not the only person who thinks this. But if he wants to cry about his players getting called dirty then that's his right
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:28 PM ET
He read cry babies and thought he saw cheap shots..,. I'll go ahead and say Perry is cheap as poop though, I already have, and I'm not the only person who thinks this. But if he wants to cry about his players getting called dirty then that's his right
- KINGS67

Every team gets players called that though. And I still stand by what I said about Perry. Im glad to see he has layed off those lower back xchecks. Outside of that. Im cool with Perry. Hes a good agitator.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jul 5 @ 11:37 PM ET
Every team gets players called that though. And I still stand by what I said about Perry. Im glad to see he has layed off those lower back xchecks. Outside of that. Im cool with Perry. Hes a good agitator.
- poisondhearts37

That's your right...
Is he a good player, YES, but I'll never like that weasel.
MrBeanTown
Boston Bruins
Location: Garth blogs make me regret my literacy, NF
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:39 AM ET
Word was that Lucic was wanting over 7M a year (wanted close to Krejci money from Boston) which led to him having to be dealt. I do think that if he really likes LA and they have a great year (Which is he is on a like with Kopitar and Gaborik ...WOW) he might eventually take less. Now, less is likely 6.5-7.0 when you look at the money some guys like Saad and ROR are getting. Lucic will get PAID in FA if he ever hits it.

Saying he doesn't have the heart of a champion, or whatever, is pretty absurd IMO. Did you watch the game vs the Leafs when they came back to beat them? he WAS the reason they got rolling and he carried them to that win. When is on his game, he is a marvel to watch. A change from playing MTL 5 times a year will be good for him, he needed a change and the Western Conference will be good to see him in.

He was, in no way at all, a bad guy in the room. He was actually LOVED by players and the fans. Not having him in the lineup next year will be really tough, he has been a staple since he was drafted. He will be missed as a Bruin (even along with his sometimes idiotic ways) for sure, but with the cap issues Boston was in I believe it was a good return for Sweeney and a great grab for LAK
One_Eyed_Sweede
Boston Bruins
Location: Angry One Eyed Swede, MA
Joined: 07.01.2013

Jul 6 @ 3:46 PM ET
Something changed in Lucic when he got the big money deal. After that deal he seemed to really only show up in what felt like 1 in every 10 games. Due to that contract, and expectations he didn't live up to he became polarizing here in Boston. Personally I fell out of love with him after last year.

I think a new team, shedding the expectation of "being the next Cam Neely(which was not fair to him)", and playing in contract year he is going to shine this year. I would be very concerned about anything beyond this season.
dprice818
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 08.16.2011

Jul 6 @ 6:56 PM ET
Something changed in Lucic when he got the big money deal. After that deal he seemed to really only show up in what felt like 1 in every 10 games. Due to that contract, and expectations he didn't live up to he became polarizing here in Boston. Personally I fell out of love with him after last year.

I think a new team, shedding the expectation of "being the next Cam Neely(which was not fair to him)", and playing in contract year he is going to shine this year. I would be very concerned about anything beyond this season.

- One_Eyed_Sweede

He is an upgrade from Williams and stoll is replaced by a faster younger, hungrier (sober) guy. I like the way Kings are shaping up for this upcoming season. If Voynov does his time, repays society for the trouble and goes to DV classes, I forgive and welcome him to the team. That would fix our D situation. Sekera was not an effective Voynov replacement. We need him back.
rubberduckies
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington beach, CA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 6 @ 7:44 PM ET
He is an upgrade from Williams and stoll is replaced by a faster younger, hungrier (sober) guy. I like the way Kings are shaping up for this upcoming season. If Voynov does his time, repays society for the trouble and goes to DV classes, I forgive and welcome him to the team. That would fix our D situation. Sekera was not an effective Voynov replacement. We need him back.
- dprice818
locker room might be a real issue ...schism looming
dprice818
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 08.16.2011

Jul 7 @ 2:00 AM ET
locker room might be a real issue ...schism looming
- rubberduckies

yeah.........NO

keep hoping though
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jul 7 @ 2:48 AM ET
Education is important kids.

http://www.forbes.com/sit...mination-of-his-contract/
dprice818
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 08.16.2011

Jul 7 @ 10:48 AM ET
Education is important kids.

http://www.forbes.com/sit...mination-of-his-contract/

- RonPielep

Thanks for sharing that, I have been looking for those kinds of details on the NHLPA rules regarding drug abuse. I would think there is more here or some kind of strategy being that the Kings GM is a lawyer.
I feel bad for Richards but his bad decisions potentially cost the Kings two deals around this years draft that would have benefitted both the Kings and Richards. The lawyers will work things out but what ever happens, he brought it on himself.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 8 @ 4:17 AM ET
As a Hawks fan I really respect the Kings(aside from their off ice stupidity, though they aren't the only team that has players who make mistakes) and will NEVER count them out because they have the will of champions....but IMO, their bottom 6 forwards will be among the leagues worst this upcoming season baring a major surprise with unforeseen rapid growth from prospects or other crazy scenarios.

Its well known that the Cup winners of late(salary cap era) have had 3 things that stand out above all else....1). The best bottom 6 forwards in the league, meaning the best forward depth and ability to roll 4 balanced lines(2 scoring lines, another so called "3rd" line that can check but also score like a 2nd line, and an elite 4th checking line) which results in elite puck possession ability. That along with 2). An extremely solid team wide defensive structure with at least 2 shut down pairs and 3). Good to great goaltending.

While LA has a sound defensive structure(and many promising young defenseman) and a great goalie which helps them limit GA, i truly believe they will be doomed by their forward depth(which also in general lacks enough team speed to compete with CHI/LA/MIN) and have essentially no chance at winning a Cup within the next few years(definitely not next year), despite the awesome core of Kopitar, Doughty, and Quick. Just not enough after that to be honest. Just my opinion.
dprice818
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 08.16.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:57 AM ET
As a Hawks fan I really respect the Kings(aside from their off ice stupidity, though they aren't the only team that has players who make mistakes) and will NEVER count them out because they have the will of champions....but IMO, their bottom 6 forwards will be among the leagues worst this upcoming season baring a major surprise with unforeseen rapid growth from prospects or other crazy scenarios.

Its well known that the Cup winners of late(salary cap era) have had 3 things that stand out above all else....1). The best bottom 6 forwards in the league, meaning the best forward depth and ability to roll 4 balanced lines(2 scoring lines, another so called "3rd" line that can check but also score like a 2nd line, and an elite 4th checking line) which results in elite puck possession ability. That along with 2). An extremely solid team wide defensive structure with at least 2 shut down pairs and 3). Good to great goaltending.

While LA has a sound defensive structure(and many promising young defenseman) and a great goalie which helps them limit GA, i truly believe they will be doomed by their forward depth(which also in general lacks enough team speed to compete with CHI/LA/MIN) and have essentially no chance at winning a Cup within the next few years(definitely not next year), despite the awesome core of Kopitar, Doughty, and Quick. Just not enough after that to be honest. Just my opinion.

- SimpleJack

or.....you could look at it this way:
The difference with the Kings today vs the team that beat Chicago and won the cup year before last is the slow players are gone - Stoll, Regher, Williams and the under performer Richards is gone. The rest of the team including guys you didn't mention (that you should have like Toffoli, Gaborik, Carter) are all still here. And this season we will have the young speedy Pearson back from injury (you should remember him, the kid on "that seventies line" that the Hawks had such a hard time stopping). I think if Voynov makes it back somehow, and with the addition of Lucic The Kings are much improved from last year and faster than the cup champs from the year before last. I think Kings will have their spot with something to prove. I think with Saad gone and Sharp and Bickell on the block and Oduya and Kruger contract status still up in the air, I would worry about your team. While I think the Hawks will be a different team they will be good as will the Kings.
hiway39
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 03.01.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:16 PM ET

While LA has a sound defensive structure(and many promising young defenseman) and a great goalie which helps them limit GA, i truly believe they will be doomed by their forward depth(which also in general lacks enough team speed to compete with CHI/LA/MIN) and have essentially no chance at winning a Cup within the next few years(definitely not next year), despite the awesome core of Kopitar, Doughty, and Quick. Just not enough after that to be honest. Just my opinion.

- SimpleJack


you're right, they don't have enough speed to compete...with themselves.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 23 @ 4:58 PM ET
Lucic is a huge addition to the Kings and it is going to fun watching him establish law and order especially against the Ducks. Krejci is the biggest loser as Lucic gave him a chance to play without getting killed. I do not like Lucic but I would love to have him on my team. He is a game changer and one of the toughest players who can actually play hockey. He will sign with the Canucks next year as a free agent, you heard it here first.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 23 @ 5:00 PM ET
As a Hawks fan I really respect the Kings(aside from their off ice stupidity, though they aren't the only team that has players who make mistakes) and will NEVER count them out because they have the will of champions....but IMO, their bottom 6 forwards will be among the leagues worst this upcoming season baring a major surprise with unforeseen rapid growth from prospects or other crazy scenarios.

Its well known that the Cup winners of late(salary cap era) have had 3 things that stand out above all else....1). The best bottom 6 forwards in the league, meaning the best forward depth and ability to roll 4 balanced lines(2 scoring lines, another so called "3rd" line that can check but also score like a 2nd line, and an elite 4th checking line) which results in elite puck possession ability. That along with 2). An extremely solid team wide defensive structure with at least 2 shut down pairs and 3). Good to great goaltending.

While LA has a sound defensive structure(and many promising young defenseman) and a great goalie which helps them limit GA, i truly believe they will be doomed by their forward depth(which also in general lacks enough team speed to compete with CHI/LA/MIN) and have essentially no chance at winning a Cup within the next few years(definitely not next year), despite the awesome core of Kopitar, Doughty, and Quick. Just not enough after that to be honest. Just my opinion.

- SimpleJack



This! I guess that is why your are called Simple Jack
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