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aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 5 @ 6:21 PM ET
Exactly, nobody has said that Gostisbehere is can't miss, and that the possibility of him not making it as an NHL player doesn't exist. I think the point is how can that possibly be determined now. If it was possible, I wish someone would let the Flyers in on the secret.
- MJL


My magic conch told me "maybe someday" when I asked if ghost would be a great NHLer
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 5 @ 6:24 PM ET
I just heard Jason pierre paul of the Giants lost fingers in a fireworks accident
- flyerscup2011


is he my neighbor ?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:39 PM ET
My magic conch told me "maybe someday" when I asked if ghost would be a great NHLer
- aflyerpower8

Spongebob
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 5 @ 7:04 PM ET
Exactly, nobody has said that Gostisbehere is can't miss, and that the possibility of him not making it as an NHL player doesn't exist. I think the point is how can that possibly be determined now. If it was possible, I wish someone would let the Flyers in on the secret.
- MJL

Who said it was determined? It was an opinion was it not?
So it also can't be determined that goulborne(sp) won't be a bust correct?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 5 @ 7:16 PM ET
I personally thought Hagg was going to be the whipping boy out of the young drafted d-men.

rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 5 @ 7:23 PM ET
I personally thought Hagg was going to be the whipping boy out of the young drafted d-men.
- flyer_nutter

Nah....I don't see any hype with him. No whipping boy status yet
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
I personally thought Hagg was going to be the whipping boy out of the young drafted d-men.
- flyer_nutter


What hype he did have has cooled. Ghost because of what he did at the frozen four set off the belief that he's going to be a stud or a solid top 4 contributor.

And in reality with him having the ACL injury we have really no idea what he can become without that year of development.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 5 @ 7:44 PM ET
What hype he did have has cooled. Ghost because of what he did at the frozen four set off the belief that he's going to be a stud or a solid top 4 contributor.

And in reality with him having the ACL injury we have really no idea what he can become without that year of development.

- ob18


Think you will see Laughton start to get some heat if he doesn't show something.

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:46 PM ET
Think you will see Laughton start to get some heat if he doesn't show something.
- flyer_nutter


I hope so
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:49 PM ET
I think Gostisbehere is going to be great. I just don't think it'll be with the Flyers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 8:08 PM ET
Who said it was determined? It was an opinion was it not?
So it also can't be determined that goulborne(sp) won't be a bust correct?

- rinaldo


Determined or an opinion, the point is the same.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:14 PM ET
Determined or an opinion, the point is the same.
- MJL

In your world I guess
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 9:18 PM ET
Trade Luke Shenn to Buffalo, for Marcus Foligno.

Philly has bodies on the back end, and could afford to flip one for a forward. And they'd give themselves a little more cap flexibility



Obviously Flyers fans will love the style of Foligno (whose upside is Lucic-esque). But he's still developing that game and won't reach his full potential for a couple years yet (as we're just now seeing his older bro breakout).


For Buffalo, Schenn would fill the hole of former LH D-man; Zadorov, who was just traded away in the Ryan O'Riley deal.

- SuperCat


you got a deal
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 5 @ 9:58 PM ET
Trade Luke Shenn to Buffalo, for Marcus Foligno.

Philly has bodies on the back end, and could afford to flip one for a forward. And they'd give themselves a little more cap flexibility



Obviously Flyers fans will love the style of Foligno (whose upside is Lucic-esque). But he's still developing that game and won't reach his full potential for a couple years yet (as we're just now seeing his older bro breakout).


For Buffalo, Schenn would fill the hole of former LH D-man; Zadorov, who was just traded away in the Ryan O'Riley deal.

- SuperCat



Throw in Nicholas Baptiste, and I would drive Schenn to Buffalo myself.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 5 @ 10:16 PM ET
The biggest problem with guys that do what those guys can do, is who's available. Who is available that can do what Simmonds does? To replace a guy like Simmonds is going to cost you something more too. You lose Simmonds, you are going to have to trade for someone else. I don't see anyone that we are developing that can step into that role right away.
- watson1195


Every year the same thing is said. How are we gonna replace "player x" and what he does?

We'll manage, we always do!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:23 PM ET
Have I been here long enough to ask for a summary?

Asking for me.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:42 PM ET
Have I been here long enough to ask for a summary?

Asking for me.

- johndewar


I have a summary but it's 4 pages long
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:48 PM ET
I have a summary but it's 4 pages long
- PhillySportsGuy


I"d like it reduced to just one Richard joke.

Go!
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jul 5 @ 11:13 PM ET
Every year the same thing is said. How are we gonna replace "player x" and what he does?

We'll manage, we always do!

- MikesPillBottle


Agreed! I forget, how did we replace Pronger?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 5 @ 11:31 PM ET
exactly.....btw, im not arguing. im simply expressing my distain for definitive declarations based on nothing. he may be a bust, he may not be. nobody knows at this point because he hasnt played enough to make that judgement.
- KINGKENZO

Suggesting that the guy randomly selected a young player to rag on is silly.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 5 @ 11:34 PM ET
Suggesting that the guy randomly selected a young player to rag on is silly.
- SuperSchennBros



Personally I want to see how he plays with this extra 20 lbs he supposedly put on. If he is able to maintain his mobility after the injury and the added weight, I will be greatly encouraged that he can make it.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 12:24 AM ET
Personally I want to see how he plays with this extra 20 lbs he supposedly put on. If he is able to maintain his mobility after the injury and the added weight, I will be greatly encouraged that he can make it.
- MBFlyerfan

I'm optimistic about all of our prospects. The only prospect I'm a little down on is Scott Laughton. Simon Gagne and Justin Williams were naturals the moment they entered the league. Mike Richards and Jeff Carter had growing pains but they belonged here. Brayden Schenn and Sean Couturier in 4 seasons have yet to have that break out seasons we're still waiting for but they've always produced. Scott Laughton still has plenty of time but past players we've developed came into the line up and grabbed on to a roster spot. The only thing that held Steve Downie back was his recklessness. Downie was an NHL player right away.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 6 @ 12:26 AM ET
I'm optimistic about all of our prospects. The only prospect I'm a little down on is Scott Laughton. Simon Gagne and Justin Williams were naturals the moment they entered the league. Mike Richards and Jeff Carter had growing pains but they belonged here. Brayden Schenn and Sean Couturier in 4 seasons have yet to take that break out seasons we're still waiting for but they've always produced. Scott Laughton still has plenty of time but past players we've developed came into the line up and grabbed on to a roster spot.
- SuperSchennBros



To be honest I think he had claimed a roster spot until he got concussed.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 12:28 AM ET
To be honest I think he had claimed a roster spot until he got concussed.
- MBFlyerfan


I don't feel Laughton has been that great so far. I'm sure some will disagree but I didn't think he was that great before the Niskanen charge.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 6 @ 12:53 AM ET
I don't feel Laughton has been that great so far. I'm sure some will disagree but I didn't think he was that great before the Niskanen charge.
- SuperSchennBros




I guess it all comes down to what we expect from him.
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