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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:05 PM ET
I'm kind of astounded. Provorov. Sanhiem.Ghost. Morin.


Why exactly does this team need to move a key piece of its dominant power play, a 1st round pick(likely in the top 20) and a high end Defensive prospect for Kevin Shattenkirk? Great player sure. But I'd rather see a cup run than the something shiny du jour.

- hereticpride

Isn't the Cup shiny though?

I agree. Our d corps in 4 years could be among the best in the league. Why trade for defense help in the present? We're not going anywhere til the prospect D step in and contribute.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:24 PM ET
Isn't the Cup shiny though?

I agree. Our d corps in 4 years could be among the best in the league. Why trade for defense help in the present? We're not going anywhere til the prospect D step in and contribute.

- Giroux_Is_God


This. Agreed. Stay the course.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:35 PM ET
Isn't the Cup shiny though?

I agree. Our d corps in 4 years could be among the best in the league. Why trade for defense help in the present? We're not going anywhere til the prospect D step in and contribute.

- Giroux_Is_God


Because, in four years, Streit and Schultz will be gone. Would be nice to have some veteran leadership to help guide all these young guys
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jul 5 @ 1:35 PM ET
Trade Luke Shenn to Buffalo, for Marcus Foligno.

Philly has bodies on the back end, and could afford to flip one for a forward. And they'd give themselves a little more cap flexibility



Obviously Flyers fans will love the style of Foligno (whose upside is Lucic-esque). But he's still developing that game and won't reach his full potential for a couple years yet (as we're just now seeing his older bro breakout).


For Buffalo, Schenn would fill the hole of former LH D-man; Zadorov, who was just traded away in the Ryan O'Riley deal.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
Trade Luke Shenn to Buffalo, for Marcus Foligno.

Philly has bodies on the back end, and could afford to flip one for a forward. And they'd give themselves a little more cap flexibility



Obviously Flyers fans will love the style of Foligno (whose upside is Lucic-esque). But he's still developing that game and won't reach his full potential for a couple years yet (as we're just now seeing his older bro breakout).


For Buffalo, Schenn would fill the hole of former LH D-man; Zadorov, who was just traded away in the Ryan O'Riley deal.

- SuperCat

Luke is a righty
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jul 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
Luke is a righty
- Crimsoninja




Ahh... piss on em then.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 5 @ 1:39 PM ET
This. Agreed. Stay the course.
- FlyersFirst


If somebody offered me a 26 year old first pairing d-man, I'd listen to what they had in mind before I'd decide what to do.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:39 PM ET
Ahh... piss on em then.
- SuperCat

lol
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
Trade Luke Shenn to Buffalo, for Marcus Foligno.

Philly has bodies on the back end, and could afford to flip one for a forward. And they'd give themselves a little more cap flexibility



Obviously Flyers fans will love the style of Foligno (whose upside is Lucic-esque). But he's still developing that game and won't reach his full potential for a couple years yet (as we're just now seeing his older bro breakout).


For Buffalo, Schenn would fill the hole of former LH D-man; Zadorov, who was just traded away in the Ryan O'Riley deal.

- SuperCat

So they trade a guy who could be lucic type for A #5 dman does that make sense on their end ?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
Rather would just stand pat.

The season to make big moves is next year, predominantly in FA with a much more promising class.

Love Giordano, and was looking to make a run at him hopefully, but the demands seem to be insane.

- flyer_nutter


I still look to move a defenseman but not in a rush
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
Luke is a righty
- Crimsoninja


Hello
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 5 @ 1:59 PM ET
So they trade a guy who could be lucic type for A #5 dman does that make sense on their end ?
- rinaldo


Who cares? Make the deal.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 5 @ 2:00 PM ET
Hello
- ob18

summer league kicks off tomorrow vs spurs
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 5 @ 2:03 PM ET
agreed i couldnt give a damn about trying to get shattenkirk
- Crimsoninja



but ghost is a bust they need to do something quick !!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 2:07 PM ET
oh look a mid 20's number 1 possibly available for trade. But they're never available
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 2:13 PM ET
but ghost is a bust they need to do something quick !!
- -davies-

he sure busted that acl
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
summer league kicks off tomorrow vs spurs
- Crimsoninja


2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 5 @ 2:31 PM ET
summer league kicks off tomorrow vs spurs
- Crimsoninja

can't wait to see embiid play
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 3:07 PM ET
can't wait to see embiid play
- 2Real


You'll be waiting a while longer
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 5 @ 3:14 PM ET
but ghost is a bust they need to do something quick !!
- -davies-

No ghost is a cAnt miss stud
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 5 @ 3:19 PM ET
agreed i couldnt give a damn about trying to get shattenkirk
- Crimsoninja

I'd take him but not for Simmonds.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 5 @ 3:28 PM ET
I'm worried that Shattenkirk seems good because he plays on a team that is strong defensively.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 5 @ 3:32 PM ET
No ghost is a cAnt miss stud
- rinaldo

(frank)ing christ, can we give the kid some time to play before we start making judgements and sarcastic, holier than thou comments on his future......let me ask you a question, since hes the guy you randomly picked as the "one who wont make it from the group", how many times have you actually seen him play?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 5 @ 3:33 PM ET
(frank)ing christ, can we give the kid some time to play before we start making judgements and sarcastic, holier than thou comments on his future......let me ask you a question, since hes the guy you randomly picked as the "one who wont make it from the group", how many times have you actually seen him play?
- KINGKENZO

oh ish
Duane B
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: off to see the wizzard. the w, PA
Joined: 12.02.2008

Jul 5 @ 3:42 PM ET
summer league kicks off tomorrow vs spurs
- Crimsoninja

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