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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 30 @ 6:41 PM ET
Someone will take a flyer on him. Unlike past snipers with poor underlying stats (Setoguchi, Heatley, etc.) he actually has good possession numbers and there are clubs out there paying attention to that now.
- jtommyt





I guess, lots of guys with good #s that are garbage IMO

jtommyt
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:43 PM ET


I guess, lots of guys with good #s that are garbage IMO

- Garnie


Every year there are a few that rebound though. Semin might be that guy in the right situation.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 30 @ 7:01 PM ET
The "quote" feature doesn't work, so here goes...
While you were defending your spelling errors, you managed to misspell "apostrophe". Just piling on James...I'm always on your side!!

- clintyboy



Hahaha figures!
itsborken
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 04.12.2014

Jun 30 @ 7:15 PM ET
Odd to me there was no news either way on Campbell.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:29 PM ET
I'm actually shocked they didn't qualify Moore. WTF?
JETSWIN
Location: Winnipeg
Joined: 05.25.2012

Jun 30 @ 8:02 PM ET
I'm actually shocked they didn't qualify Moore. WTF?
- rangerdanger94


Too focused on acquiring Boyd Gordon....is it too soon to #tankformathews
itsborken
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 04.12.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:40 PM ET
BG was good on the dot. Rather have vermette back but good to see him back.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jun 30 @ 9:49 PM ET
Arizona moving to Vegas.
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jun 30 @ 10:30 PM ET
The Semin buy-out bothers me. They buy him out for 2/3s of his salary, meaning they save roughly $2.3 million per year on the buyout (according to Matt Karash).

Now, the Canes won't be spending to the cap, so I guess real money is all that matters here, but I still think it's a curious - possibly terrible decision - because, for $2.3 million dollars, you can't get a player to replace Alex Semin



I think you are misunderstanding the Semin buyout.
He will cost 2.33 against the cap, meaning the canes get an extra 4.67 to spend on a forward. For nearly 4.7 million, Semins production can easily be replaced.
itsborken
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 04.12.2014

Jun 30 @ 11:46 PM ET
Yawn would not surprise me if Westhead/TSN turned out to be one of the two sources. NHL says it is 100% false.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 30 @ 11:59 PM ET
I think you are misunderstanding the Semin buyout.
He will cost 2.33 against the cap, meaning the canes get an extra 4.67 to spend on a forward. For nearly 4.7 million, Semins production can easily be replaced.

- GardinerExpress


It doesn' t matter how they spread it out, they're on the hook for two-thirds of the money, since they're not going to spend to the cap, it doesn't really matter if they absorb a smaller cap hit.

As far as I know, it's 2/3s the $ spread over twice the number of years left, so yeah you're right in the sense that this year they'll have that much extra money, but since they aren't a cap team, it's irrelevant - they still have to pay Semin all but 1/3 of his money.

I am not misunderstanding anything. At least, I'm pretty sure that I am not.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:35 AM ET
It doesn' t matter how they spread it out, they're on the hook for two-thirds of the money, since they're not going to spend to the cap, it doesn't really matter if they absorb a smaller cap hit.

As far as I know, it's 2/3s the $ spread over twice the number of years left, so yeah you're right in the sense that this year they'll have that much extra money, but since they aren't a cap team, it's irrelevant - they still have to pay Semin all but 1/3 of his money.

I am not misunderstanding anything. At least, I'm pretty sure that I am not.

- James_Tanner


If they are a budget team as you say, then its much better to spread out less money over more time for a player that isn't producing. So they essentially just gave themselves 4 million in extra budget space while not really losing a player of much value to them.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:01 AM ET
Totally agree on your comment. I can't believe the rumor that Rutherford is considering signing him in Pittsburg this time. JR has got to be senile, especially if he goes for another dose of Semin.
dps0610
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 1 @ 3:37 AM ET
That actually is helpful, my bad.
- James_Tanner


No worries.
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jul 1 @ 5:00 AM ET
It doesn' t matter how they spread it out, they're on the hook for two-thirds of the money, since they're not going to spend to the cap, it doesn't really matter if they absorb a smaller cap hit.

As far as I know, it's 2/3s the $ spread over twice the number of years left, so yeah you're right in the sense that this year they'll have that much extra money, but since they aren't a cap team, it's irrelevant - they still have to pay Semin all but 1/3 of his money.

I am not misunderstanding anything. At least, I'm pretty sure that I am not.

- James_Tanner


The thing is, you made a big deal about the canes not being able to replace his production for 2.3 million. For 4.7 in savings, its easily done.

You made it seem like they were only saving 2.3 next year, which is incorrect.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:31 AM ET
The thing is, you made a big deal about the canes not being able to replace his production for 2.3 million. For 4.7 in savings, its easily done.

You made it seem like they were only saving 2.3 next year, which is incorrect.

- GardinerExpress


They are only saving 2.3 million. They're a hockey team spending tens of millions of dollars, it really doesn't make any "real" difference if they spread the money out over a few years or not, they are saving 2.3 million per year on the contract and that is it.

Any other way of looking at it is just a technicality.
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