I thought Hextall just gave them a piece of paper and said sign here and that was that
- Streit2ThePoint

That was the Holmgren method, because that piece of paper usually was at least 3 of:
1) Above market value
2) Longer than needed
3) Has the term "NTC" on it
4) Had the term "NMC" on it.

http://www.pensionplanpup...-by-height-weight-and-age

And how the players stack up

The average NHLer is 73.33" (6' 1 1/3") tall, weighs 204.42 lbs, and is 27.36 years old.
The average forward is 72.93" (6' 1") tall, weighs 202.4 lbs, and is 27.1 years old.
The average defenseman is 73.87" (6' 1 7/8") tall, weighs 209.66 lbs, and is 27.49 years old.
The average goalie is 73.94" (6' 2") tall, weighs, 198.39 lbs, and is 28.54 years old.
- MBFlyerfan

Well there you go

Bob Roberts ‏@BobRbrts 16m16 minutes ago

So, Pronman has Konecny as the top prospect in the Flyers entire system now... 👍

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 3m3 minutes ago

Blackhawks re-sign Michael Leighton.
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Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 3m3 minutes ago

Penguins, like other teams are in trade mode today. If a deal is made likely takes then out of ufa market. Nothing imminent.
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Just throwing a number out there. I guess 200-210ish would be more realistic after doing a quick looksie (Ovechkin at 230 lbs )
- Streit2ThePoint

Gagner's 5'11 too, which is a couple of inches under average.

Plus, the wings usually cover the point/high slot in the d-zone, so shouldn't we be looking @ avg size of defensemen?

That was the Holmgren method, because that piece of paper usually was at least 3 of:
1) Above market value
2) Longer than needed
3) Has the term "NTC" on it
4) Had the term "NMC" on it.
- jmatchett383

He's the pens rinaldo. And bellemare beat him. For someone who lacks toughness as you say. That'd be tough. Earlier in the year games 1-10 bellemare played with more a physical edge than slowed down on the physicality. Maybe it was coaching maybe his body couldn't take it. Who knows. But as a 4th liner with upside I don't hate him.

Also as bill pointed out in his last post. Laughton lost confidence. I don't him with mediocre 4th liners. I'd rather him play all situations top line 100 point season in the ahl. I'm closer to Holland view on prospects I'd rather them to be over ready than under ready. Our city wants us good again so badly. I'd rather be patient and make sure these guys come in and have impacts. Laughton next year or as a call up I like a whole lot more. Keep gagner a year laughton can take over next.
- Tfaehner

When I say I'm not sure his body holds up physically, this goes far beyond fighting.

I'd say a buck 90
- Streit2ThePoint

Probably a little higher than that.

Bob Roberts ‏@BobRbrts 16m16 minutes ago

So, Pronman has Konecny as the top prospect in the Flyers entire system now... 👍
- Winning

This is blasphemy

Why do I have to list 7 out of 13?
- SuperSchennBros

Because you said he as many bad seasons as good ones.

Bellamare has been signed for a while.

Vandevelde signed today. Vandevelde is less effective than White. White should have been a higher priority IMO.

Bellamare>White>VV
- acd513

Does the player have any say in signing?

This is blasphemy
- Tfaehner

I'd rank the Flyers prospects as:
1. Provorov
2. Sanheim
3. Morin
4. Laughton
5. Ghostisbehere
6. Konecny
7. Aube-Kubel
8. Cousins
9. Hagg
10. Stolarz

And, BTW, this list is light years ahead in quality of where it was just 2 years ago!

Hickey is about to get a 3 year @ 2.16 cap hit. Does that seem comparable to something Del Zotto should be looking at.

This is blasphemy
- Tfaehner

Never trust someone with two first names

Does the player have any say in signing?
- MJL

Also maybe White wants a one way deal and the Flyers want a two way deal. Could be multiple reasons they haven't signed him

Never trust someone with two first names
- Scoob

Good point

I'd rank the Flyers prospects as:
1. Provorov
2. Sanheim
3. Morin
4. Laughton
5. Ghostisbehere
6. Konecny
7. Aube-Kubel
8. Cousins
9. Hagg
10. Stolarz

And, BTW, this list is light years ahead in quality of where it was just 2 years ago!
- BiggE

No love for the bread man?

Gagner's 5'11 too, which is a couple of inches under average.

Plus, the wings usually cover the point/high slot in the d-zone, so shouldn't we be looking @ avg size of defensemen?


- Tomahawk

Not when the comment was that one of the reasons why Gagner isn't considered a good defensive forward, is because he lacks size. At 5'11" 200 lbs, size is not the problem there.

Sanheim and Provorov are both better prospects than Konecny. Pronman comes up with some weird ones.

Also maybe White wants a one way deal and the Flyers want a two way deal. Could be multiple reasons they haven't signed him
- J35Bacher

Nope, nonsense. The Flyers tell players what they're getting paid, and then after the player signs, the Flyers put them back into their cage.

Also maybe White wants a one way deal and the Flyers want a two way deal. Could be multiple reasons they haven't signed him
- J35Bacher

I'm pretty sure they'd offer him a one way deal. Most likely its term and cash that are holding things up.

No love for the bread man?
- jmatchett383

??

Hickey is about to get a 3 year @ 2.16 cap hit. Does that seem comparable to something Del Zotto should be looking at.
- J35Bacher

Points-per-game career/last-season

Hickey: 0.24/0.27
Del Zotto: 0.41/0.50


And MDZ's got almost twice the number of NHL GP's under his belt... don't think they're comparable beyond age.

Any word on Richards? Hockeybuzz seems to be ignoring the whole situation.
- MBFlyerfan

I'm speculated out.

I just want them to tell us at this point.

??
- BiggE

Amorosa

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=168012