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Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:31 AM ET
No
- Streit2ThePoint

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 9:32 AM ET
Gagner bought out yes or no
- Winning



I'm hoping yes, but I don't think it's a bad idea to keep him. Not much risk.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:32 AM ET
Does Kessel deal get done today
- Winning



He may get dealt today, but it won't be to the Flyers.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:32 AM ET
The draft and recent deals have gone over well for most of us, if not all of us. I think the Grossmann/Pronger for Gagner is a good move, especially if we keep Gagner. However, I'm not so sure Hextall should be so quick to re-sign players such as Nick Schultz, Pierre-Edouard Bellemare and 32 year old unproven NHL rookie Yevgeni Medvedev. I think Scott Laughton can hand a 4th line center role, while working his way up. Patrick Sharp wasn't hurt by this is his first couple of NHL season. We also have Samuel Morin who could also earn a spot on the but these premature signing make Morin's chances more difficult. With two more seasons left on Umberger's deal, I wouldn't allow pride to be the reason why Umberger isn't bought out if we cannot move him. It was a bad deal. I'm also hoping we can retain Ryan White.

Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
UFA-Gagner-Simmonds
Read-Couturier-Schenn
Vandevelde-Laughton-White

MacDonald-Streit
Del Zotto-Schenn
Morin-Gudas

Mason
UFA

Still a far from perfect roster but many of us expect more of the same anyway.

- SuperSchennBros

Gagner should not play Center for this team

Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:33 AM ET
The draft and recent deals have gone over well for most of us, if not all of us. I think the Grossmann/Pronger for Gagner is a good move, especially if we keep Gagner. However, I'm not so sure Hextall should be so quick to re-sign players such as Nick Schultz, Pierre-Edouard Bellemare and 32 year old unproven NHL rookie Yevgeni Medvedev. I think Scott Laughton can hand a 4th line center role, while working his way up. Patrick Sharp wasn't hurt by this is his first couple of NHL season. We also have Samuel Morin who could also earn a spot on the but these premature signing make Morin's chances more difficult. With two more seasons left on Umberger's deal, I wouldn't allow pride to be the reason why Umberger isn't bought out if we cannot move him. It was a bad deal. I'm also hoping we can retain Ryan White.

Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
UFA-Gagner-Simmonds
Read-Couturier-Schenn
Vandevelde-Laughton-White

MacDonald-Streit
Del Zotto-Schenn
Morin-Gudas

Mason
UFA

Still a far from perfect roster but many of us expect more of the same anyway.

- SuperSchennBros


Bellemare is already signed for another 2 years
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:33 AM ET
I'm hoping yes, but I don't think it's a bad idea to keep him. Not much risk.
- MJL

Do you think is plus /minus is bad because he played on the Oilers or is he just that bad defensively?
acd513
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.23.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:36 AM ET
White should have been a higher priority than Vandevelde. Players like VV are a dime a dozen.

White can play up and down the lineup and provides toughness. Something this team is lacking.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:36 AM ET
The draft and recent deals have gone over well for most of us, if not all of us. I think the Grossmann/Pronger for Gagner is a good move, especially if we keep Gagner. However, I'm not so sure Hextall should be so quick to re-sign players such as Nick Schultz, Pierre-Edouard Bellemare and 32 year old unproven NHL rookie Yevgeni Medvedev. I think Scott Laughton can hand a 4th line center role, while working his way up. Patrick Sharp wasn't hurt by this is his first couple of NHL season. We also have Samuel Morin who could also earn a spot on the but these premature signing make Morin's chances more difficult. With two more seasons left on Umberger's deal, I wouldn't allow pride to be the reason why Umberger isn't bought out if we cannot move him. It was a bad deal. I'm also hoping we can retain Ryan White.

Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
UFA-Gagner-Simmonds
Read-Couturier-Schenn
Vandevelde-Laughton-White

MacDonald-Streit
Del Zotto-Schenn
Morin-Gudas

Mason
UFA

Still a far from perfect roster but many of us expect more of the same anyway.

- SuperSchennBros



I think Bellemare was a good signing. He showed to be a solid, versatile forward who can kill penalties. He can play wing and center and has good speed. I like White too but I think Bellemare brings a little more that helps the team. I do hope White is resigned.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 9:38 AM ET
Do you think is plus /minus is bad because he played on the Oilers or is he just that bad defensively?
- Winning


He's not a lazy/careless player who doesn't deign to play D... he just gives up a lot of size.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:38 AM ET
Speaking of that, Bob Froese (now the senior pastor in a church in Clarenence, NY) celebrates his 57th birthday today.
- bmeltzer

Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:38 AM ET
Ryan White must want alot of cash
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 30 @ 9:39 AM ET
It's the people with the video in their reply that are breaking the page. Nubs.
- wolfhounds


When the first person posts a video that is too big the snowball starts down the hill.

Regulars should know better.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:39 AM ET
White should have been a higher priority than Vandevelde. Players like VV are a dime a dozen.

White can play up and down the lineup and provides toughness. Something this team is lacking.

- acd513


White probably wants more money. He might not get signed till they can do something with Vinny.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:39 AM ET
White should have been a higher priority than Vandevelde. Players like VV are a dime a dozen.

White can play up and down the lineup and provides toughness. Something this team is lacking.

- acd513


White and Vandevelde are role players. I do think that Vandevelde played for Hakstol did help in that he knows the system. Also I think he is a little better offensively and better skater.

I like White but I think his goal scoring was more an abnormality then the norm. Also Vandevelde and Bellemare showed some good chemistry and create good chances on the 4th line and PK.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 9:41 AM ET
Do you think is plus /minus is bad because he played on the Oilers or is he just that bad defensively?
- Winning



Probably some of both.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 30 @ 9:41 AM ET
He may get dealt today, but it won't be to the Flyers.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Doesn't he have a bonus due 7/1?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:43 AM ET
Bellemare is already signed for another 2 years
- Streit2ThePoint

So is Schultz. Read my post again.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:43 AM ET
Doesn't he have a bonus due 7/1?
- Scoob


Yes. $4 million.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 9:43 AM ET
White should have been a higher priority than Vandevelde. Players like VV are a dime a dozen.

White can play up and down the lineup and provides toughness. Something this team is lacking.

- acd513


Common, they're both dime a dozen
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:43 AM ET
Doesn't he have a bonus due 7/1?
- Scoob



I don't think any player that is due a bonue on 07/01 is being dealt before the bonus is paid. Just my feeling.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 9:43 AM ET
White should have been a higher priority than Vandevelde. Players like VV are a dime a dozen.

White can play up and down the lineup and provides toughness. Something this team is lacking.

- acd513


I like White and would like him back, but he's not anything special. He has some good qualities. Vandevelde's ability to play on the PK, gives him the edge over White in my opinion.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:43 AM ET
So is Schultz. Read my post again.
- SuperSchennBros


No thanks. It was bad enough the first time.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 30 @ 9:45 AM ET
Speaking of that, Bob Froese (now the senior pastor in a church in Clarenence, NY) celebrates his 57th birthday today.
- bmeltzer

novena to St Hexy of Brandon
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:45 AM ET
I think Bellemare was a good signing. He showed to be a solid, versatile forward who can kill penalties. He can play wing and center and has good speed. I like White too but I think Bellemare brings a little more that helps the team. I do hope White is resigned.
- J35Bacher

I don't like how Bellemare physically matches up and I worry about his health at times because of this. I think White could hold up just fine as a center or winger on the fourth line who also killed penalties at times before the season ended.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:45 AM ET
So is Schultz.
- SuperSchennBros



What's wrong with the Schultz signing?

He played very well and is signed at a low cost. He is also a great vet to have if you continue to purge players like Grossmann/Schenn/MacDonald. He can be a good partner to a rookie like Morin or Ghost or Provorov. Also his deal doesn't really take any value away if a team would like to trade for him to add a vet.
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