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five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 30 @ 2:07 PM ET
Sweeney butchered the Hamilton trade, but in my eyes, got a ridiculous return for Lucic. Overrated, overpaid player 1 year from FA and he got what's turned out to be 2 1sts and 2 good prospects. What he did/does with those draft picks is another story, but that's a great return. Now, the Rinaldo trade...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:08 PM ET
any word on vinny or gagner?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 2:08 PM ET
Yep. Now maybe that's just me

I wouldn't have blinked

I would not have hesitated one damn second

- AllInForFlyers

Me either.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:09 PM ET
can't believe anybody gave up anything for rinaldo! that's funny ... what the heck is going on in boston?!
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:10 PM ET


When Hextall terminates Vinny tomorrow and trades Macdonald in a package for
kessel
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:12 PM ET
any word on vinny or gagner?
- JoeRussomanno


Not being bought out.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 2:13 PM ET
Wow... and for two years people have been mad at me for saying we should have taken him in the draft instead of Couturier.
- mayorofangrytown



Easy to say after the fact.

At the time of that draft Couturier was talked about as the possible top pick and then got mono.

Move forward some years and pronger injured and defense in flux it's easy to say we should have taken him.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:14 PM ET
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:16 PM ET

When Hextall terminates Vinny tomorrow and trades Macdonald in a package for
kessel

- Winning

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:16 PM ET
Wow... and for two years people have been mad at me for saying we should have taken him in the draft instead of Couturier.
- mayorofangrytown


I didn't mind them taking Couturier, because of his size and pedigree, though like everyone, I was curious about Hamilton. So I can't crush anybody for that

But I'm just one of those people who believes that you don't pay everybody

But you do pay the RIGHT people. You pay for them and worry about the rest of that poop later


JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:16 PM ET
Wow... and for two years people have been mad at me for saying we should have taken him in the draft instead of Couturier.

That said... I'm not trading Laughton, Sanheim and Provorov for Dougie Hamilton. I think you're getting a bit excited about Hamilton.

- mayorofangrytown

haven't you figured out by now: what the flyers do is always right, and the moves they didnt make were foolhardy at best.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:16 PM ET


When Hextall terminates Vinny tomorrow and trades Macdonald in a package for
kessel

- Winning



Hextall can't terminate Lecavalier tomorrow.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:17 PM ET
for the record: id rather avoid kessel.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:17 PM ET
Hextall can't terminate Lecavalier tomorrow.
- MJL

mutual
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:18 PM ET
What about Semin on a Brad Richards type deal. 1 year @ 1 mil.
- J35Bacher

If you could swing it.. However still has a lot of talent, just a knucklehead. Wonder if some team will over pay him based on his ability
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:19 PM ET
Bruins got 15th overall and two second rounders.


7, Laughton and 61.

That's about what Boston got from Calgary

- J35Bacher



Laughton was a first round pick.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 2:19 PM ET
Easy to say after the fact.

At the time of that draft Couturier was talked about as the possible top pick and then got mono.

Move forward some years and pronger injured and defense in flux it's easy to say we should have taken him.

- J35Bacher

I said it at the time. Been belaboring it with a Bruins friend of mine for years. I guess I can let that go now.

If you don't want to believe me that's fine. No need to call me a liar.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 2:19 PM ET
Hextall can't terminate Lecavalier tomorrow.
- MJL


Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:19 PM ET
Flyers would offer
MacDonald
1st 2016
Prospect Scott Laughton
Matt Read
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 2:20 PM ET
I didn't mind them taking Couturier, because of his size and pedigree, though like everyone, I was curious about Hamilton. So I can't crush anybody for that

But I'm just one of those people who believes that you don't pay everybody

But you do pay the RIGHT people. You pay for them and worry about the rest of that poop later

- AllInForFlyers

Agreed. I wasn't freaking out over the pick. I just liked Hamilton and we already had young forwards at the time.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 2:21 PM ET
Laughton was a first round pick.
- MJL



So 7, Abul-Kubel and 61 then
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 2:22 PM ET
for the record: id rather avoid kessel.
- JoeRussomanno

15 years ago I'm for bringing him on board. Today... I like him more than most (and everyone in Toronto) but no thanks.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:23 PM ET
Yep. Now maybe that's just me

I wouldn't have blinked

I would not have hesitated one damn second

- AllInForFlyers



I agree. I then would've trade Del Zotto.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
I agree. I then would've trade Del Zotto.
- MJL


Exactly -- because you could turn right around and recoup some of what you've lost by massaging your roster

I'll stop harping on it, I promise

He's just 22 years old. It's just crazy, what Calgary paid
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 2:25 PM ET
for the record: id rather avoid kessel.
- JoeRussomanno

I think he's a good fit if we don't already have Voracek or heavy on the right side. I'd consider Phanuef before Kessel.
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