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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:18 PM ET
But Boston will win, so...insert page-breaking video here
- Scoob




Sorry, I shouldn't have quoted that video.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:18 PM ET
I dont see why Morin would have a better chance over Hagg or Ghost coming out of juniors? Hextall is quoted as saying he's not discounting Ghost making the team out of camp. Didn't make such a direct comment about anyone else when asked.
- mochoson



Gostisbehere is coming off a serious injury where he missed most of last season. How realistic is it for him to make the jump? With the makeup of the Flyers defense, the most likely opening would be on the 3rd pair, which would be a fit for the kind of player that Morin is. I personally don't see any of them making it, which is fine. Over develop and bring them up when they're sure they are ready.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:18 PM ET
I would be real happy with a 2 year deal.

What I REALLY want is the cap space in two years. the only D man they are on the hook for in two years is Amac. If would be nice to be able to choose whether to keep DZ at that point or see if the kids are ready.
RJ, PEB, VdV, are all done as well.

- nails

I would have traded him at the draft for a mid second right after I picked Provorov at 7.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:19 PM ET
He'll never be ready until he shows that he's ready so don't put a date on it because he isn't ready.

What don't you understand? You think you can project? You can't project. Failure is the only option until there's another option.

- mayorofangrytown


I always leave my options to pass/fail wide open
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 30 @ 12:19 PM ET
Who keeps talking about 3+ year of MDZ?
- jak521


SSB
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:20 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 13m13 minutes ago
FLA puts Brad Boyes on buyout waivers.


or ?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 30 @ 12:20 PM ET
He'll never be ready until he shows that he's ready so don't put a date on it because he isn't ready.

What don't you understand? You think you can project? You can't project. Failure is the only option until there's another option.

- mayorofangrytown


You should be a motivational speaker and/or small business owner.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:21 PM ET
The Flyers have some money to play with. Keep in mind that I believe there is another buyout period later in the Summer.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:21 PM ET
Jeff Marek ‏@JeffMarek 32s33 seconds ago

Philadelphia keeps Sam Gagner. His skill set should be better used in the Flyers system.
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I feel like Vinny is gone

- Winning


Vinny probably is gone. I could see him going to Arizona, what with the necessity of their reaching the salary floor, am totally unsure though what the final terms of such a deal would look like.

Kessel is not coming here.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:21 PM ET
2 years, 3.5m AAV would be OK by me. Then when his contract finishes it will also be the end of Ghost's ELC and we can just keep whichever offensive dman is better.
- Feanor


This is the most accurate depiction of how I want this to go down

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:21 PM ET
Jeff Marek ‏@JeffMarek 32s33 seconds ago

Philadelphia keeps Sam Gagner. His skill set should be better used in the Flyers system.
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I feel like Vinny is gone

- Winning


Unless Vinny is interested in being Derek Settlemyre's assistant, or head of concessions in the Cote suite, then, I think the two sides will come to a mutual understanding on Thursday.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:21 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 33s34 seconds ago

It appears Gagner and Vinny will stay with Flyers. They weren't bought out. Flyers still could move both in deals.

fire hextall

- Winning

FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:21 PM ET
Trade MDZ to Boston for Pastrnak. Hextall just has to convince Sweeney that MDZ could replace Dougie which looking at Sweeney's mental capacity shouldnt be that hard. Might even get him to throw in a draft pick.

Make it happen Sweeney!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 30 @ 12:21 PM ET
This is the most accurate depiction of how I want this to go down
- AllInForFlyers


Same here, although I'd prefer $3.25M per.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:22 PM ET
Which is it? A couple of 2-3? I'm okay with 2.
- jmatchett383

2-3 years.. Either I am okay with.

Defense is one position you want to have security and actual depth.

3/7 of our defense going into next season are going to be free agents at the end of the year. If we sign MDZ to a 1 year deal, that makes it 4/7. Thats not a very ideal situation. The year after that Streit and Schultz are both free agents. So as of now, a 2 year deal would be ideal. 3 years really wouldnt be the end of the world seeing how we only have 1 guy currently on the team and signed through there, and that guy is Andrew MacDonald.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 30 @ 12:22 PM ET
Trade MDZ to Boston for Pastrnak. Hextall just has to convince Sweeney that MDZ could replace Dougie which looking at Sweeney's mental capacity shouldnt be that hard. Might even get him to throw in a draft pick.

Make it happen Sweeney!

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


Only if they retain 50% of Pastrnak's hit.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 12:22 PM ET
Gostisbehere is coming off a serious injury where he missed most of last season. How realistic is it for him to make the jump? With the makeup of the Flyers defense, the most likely opening would be on the 3rd pair, which would be a fit for the kind of player that Morin is. I personally don't see any of them making it, which is fine. Over develop and bring them up when they're sure they are ready.
- MJL



I kind of see that happening too. Provorov will be interesting as almost everyone says he is NHL ready. Still think another dman is moved once teams miss on FA targets.

But Hextall could surprise us all. We have already seen he isn't cut from the same cloth as previous Flyer GMs
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:22 PM ET
You should be a motivational speaker and/or small business owner.
- jmatchett383



I was thinking Third World Dictator.


Moatsey, El Presidente por Vida.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:22 PM ET
The Flyers have some money to play with. Keep in mind that I believe there is another buyout period later in the Summer.
- MJL

August at some point, right?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:23 PM ET
You should be a motivational speaker and/or small business owner.
- jmatchett383

I like to pacify the masses with diddies they can hum during their daily routine. It's a gift.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:23 PM ET
Gostisbehere is coming off a serious injury where he missed most of last season. How realistic is it for him to make the jump? With the makeup of the Flyers defense, the most likely opening would be on the 3rd pair, which would be a fit for the kind of player that Morin is. I personally don't see any of them making it, which is fine. Over develop and bring them up when they're sure they are ready.
- MJL


Yup, I dont want any of them on the team after camp. Let Ghost rehab and build back confidence. All three of them need the experience.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:23 PM ET
Please explain this via spreadsheet
- PhillySportsGuy


TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:23 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 13m13 minutes ago
FLA puts Brad Boyes on buyout waivers.


or ?

- Streit2ThePoint

nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:23 PM ET
I would have traded him at the draft for a mid second right after I picked Provorov at 7.
- mayorofangrytown

Altough I would rather keep DZ and not Schenn.
I still think Schenn is the most moveable piece out of him, Vinny, and RJ.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 12:23 PM ET
Flyers keeping Gagner makes me believe they found another way to clear cap space
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