Alright, we talked about who we'd like to draft for months! There is zero talk about who they'd like to acquire. We're less then a day away, people!! Today's Christmas Eve!!
- SuperSchennBros

Not thrilled with anyone out there vis-à-vis how much they would cost. I would rather play our current hand than take on more salaries

I think Del Zotto makes our defense better in terms of puck movement and producing offense.
- SuperSchennBros

Not what I asked.

Also, a lot of players would have made our defense better in those aspects compared to what we had.

Probably Leight...but Leighton on the Hawks? A) He's still playing? B) Traitor!

Not thrilled with anyone out there vis-à-vis how much they would cost. I would rather play our current hand than take on more salaries
- DaveofYork

Like most of his moves so far, expect Hexy to go off-board in FA signings, if he does anything at all.

I think Mason's year was better than MDZs year, but I get where you are coming frm.
If MDZ were to take anther step forward, then yes, 3/4 years at 3-3.5AAV would be worth it.
But, I really want to see it again.
I wish he would sign 1 year at 2.5 and prove it. that is almost a 100% raise.
- nails

Let's just sign more vets at 4-5 years. That way, we can ensure that none of Sanheim, Ghost, Morin, Hagg, or Provorov ever get a chance at playing.

When are we able to negotiate Luke Schenn's extension? And why did we only sign Schultz for 2 years? He wasn't a complete cluster(frank), should have gotten him for 4-5.

I have a feeling Hextall probably has two more trades and two FA signings. That's my guess. FA signings might be depth guys or a player who didn't get a QO.

Are you arguing that MDZ played his position last year as well as Mason did in 13/14?
- jmatchett383

The bigger difference is that we have five LHD prospects who could possibly take MDZ's spot in the future. When we signed Mason our only goalie prospect was Stolarz.

I think Mason's year was better than MDZs year, but I get where you are coming frm.
If MDZ were to take anther step forward, then yes, 3/4 years at 3-3.5AAV would be worth it.
But, I really want to see it again.
I wish he would sign 1 year at 2.5 and prove it. that is almost a 100% raise.
- nails

Good Call...

The bigger difference is that we have five LHD prospects who could possibly take MDZ's spot in the future. When we signed Mason our only goalie prospect was Stolarz.
- Feanor

Why play any of our prospects when we can keep their spots filled with more expensive vets?

Probably Leight...but Leighton on the Hawks? A) He's still playing? B) Traitor!
- wolfhounds

He was with their AHL team last year

Let's just sign more vets at 4-5 years. That way, we can ensure that none of Sanheim, Ghost, Morin, Hagg, or Provorov ever get a chance at playing.

When are we able to negotiate Luke Schenn's extension? And why did we only sign Schultz for 2 years? He wasn't a complete cluster(frank), should have gotten him for 4-5.
- jmatchett383

I don't think Hextall budges from his stance of whatever he feels is fair for Del Zotto. So many teams need defenseman I think he moves him before signing him to a deal he doesn't like.

I have a feeling Hextall probably has two more trades and two FA signings. That's my guess. FA signings might be depth guys or a player who didn't get a QO.
- J35Bacher

What's Matt Calvert's situation?

Flyers are not subject to any penalties because they signed the deal before the new CBA was done.
- mochoson

Recapture penalties are retro active, deals signed before the new CBA, are not immune to recapture penalties. If a team paid out more in cap hit then in salary when they had the player, then he was traded, they are not subject to cap recapture penalties.

I don't think Hextall budges from his stance of whatever he feels is fair for Del Zotto. So many teams need defenseman I think he moves him before signing him to a deal he doesn't like.
- J35Bacher

We already have a ton of veterans blocking the way for our young players, I don't know why we need to add another one for 3-4 years because he was not completely terrible at playing defense.

What's Matt Calvert's situation?
- jmatchett383

I haven't seen.

I do like him.

I still have a feeling that Matt Read gets moved. Not sure why. Just have this feeling of a deal where we get a young winger back.

Not what I asked.

Also, a lot of players would have made our defense better in those aspects compared to what we had.
- jmatchett383

What you asked isn't comparable. Steve Mason is our number 1 goalie, which makes or breaks most teams. When you look at our defense and how fans on this board alone feel about it, who is left? Some wanted Nicolas Grossmann out, Luke Schenn out, Andrew MacDonald is overpaid, so they want him out. Michael Del Zotto might now want to be overpaid, so some of us as fans don't want to meet his demands. Not everything is going to be fair when it comes to the retool. Our promising prospects are a little while aways to becoming regulars at this level.

Recapture penalties are retro active, deals signed before the new CBA, are not immune to recapture penalties. If a team paid out more in cap hit then in salary when they had the player, then he was traded, they are not subject to cap recapture penalties.
- MJL

So what you're saying is that the Flyers screwed themselves and overpaid him in real dollars.

Edit: No, I get it. It's sarcasm.

We already have a ton of veterans blocking the way for our young players, I don't know why we need to add another one for 3-4 years because he was not completely terrible at playing defense.
- jmatchett383

Yeah.

Hextall just doesn't seem like he is going to sign a guy to a deal that doesn't make sense for the current/future for the team even if the guy was good for the season. Like the MacDonald deal, I don't see that as something Hextall would have done if in charge.

What you asked isn't comparable. Steve Mason is our number 1 goalie, which makes or breaks most teams. When you look at our defense and how fans on this board alone feel about it, who is left? Some wanted Nicolas Grossmann out, Luke Schenn out, Andrew MacDonald is overpaid, so they want him out. Michael Del Zotto might now want to be overpaid, so some of us as fans don't want to meet his demands. Not everything is going to be fair when it comes to the retool. Our promising prospects are a little while aways to becoming regulars at this level.
- SuperSchennBros

1) If they're not comparable, why did you open your argument citing Mason?

2) We already have a full load of NHL defensemen, plus Manning and the prospects, 4 of which (if you include Alt) are playing professionally this year. I'd like to make it possible that 1 of them make the team this season out of camp. But if we keep signing more vets for multiple years, you hurt that windown.

But sure, let's throw 3 years at everyone who's not terrible.

Let's just sign more vets at 4-5 years. That way, we can ensure that none of Sanheim, Ghost, Morin, Hagg, or Provorov ever get a chance at playing.

When are we able to negotiate Luke Schenn's extension? And why did we only sign Schultz for 2 years? He wasn't a complete cluster(frank), should have gotten him for 4-5.
- jmatchett383

should have extended Pronger instead of trading him?

Yeah.

Hextall just doesn't seem like he is going to sign a guy to a deal that doesn't make sense for the current/future for the team even if the guy was good for the season. Like the MacDonald deal, I don't see that as something Hextall would have done if in charge.
- J35Bacher

I have problem with giving MDZ a one-year deal if Hexy feels that he's earned it. Two years is pushing it, depending on hit. What I don't want to do see if a 3+ year deal at $3M or more because frankly, I don't see him as a piece moving forward long-term.

should have extended Pronger instead of trading him?
- nails

What a waste. I mean, the guy's a HOFer, and we just traded him? Do you know how hard it is to find a HOF-caliber defenseman?

We already have a ton of veterans blocking the way for our young players, I don't know why we need to add another one for 3-4 years because he was not completely terrible at playing defense.
- jmatchett383

The veterans aren't really blocking anyone's way. They can be moved to make room if neccessary. They're holding down the fort, until the young players are ready.

Probably Leight...but Leighton on the Hawks? A) He's still playing? B) Traitor!
- wolfhounds

Played on their AHL team. Signed another one year two-way contract, $575k

(And he was drafted by Chicago)

I have problem with giving MDZ a one-year deal if Hexy feels that he's earned it. Two years is pushing it, depending on hit. What I don't want to do see if a 3+ year deal at $3M or more because frankly, I don't see him as a piece moving forward long-term.
- jmatchett383

My top deal for Del Zotto would be 2 years with a 3M AAV.