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hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:25 PM ET
If he's retired that contract should be null and void. There is so much wrong with all of this it's not even funny. This is cap circumvention at it's best.
- HonkFortheGoose

100% agree, so Arizona can deal a whatever it was for Prongers rights so they don't have to worry about the floor. Sees, like a complete circumvention
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
100% agree, so Arizona can deal a whatever it was for Prongers rights so they don't have to worry about the floor. Sees, like a complete circumvention
- hubie


NHL allows it though as per the CBA
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
But he's still collecting money from a players contract. The way everything's gone down with him doesn't sit well with me. The HOF part isn't even really that big of a deal compared to the rest.

Like the fact that even though he's collecting his players salary, he's also collecting a check from the NHL for whatever position it is that he holds with them.

- HonkFortheGoose



Insurance is picking up something like 70% of it.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:29 PM ET
100% agree, so Arizona can deal a whatever it was for Prongers rights so they don't have to worry about the floor. Sees, like a complete circumvention
- hubie



The Islanders have done it in the past.

Tim Thomas.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:30 PM ET
Andreychuk got f$cked again I see

hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:30 PM ET
The Islanders have done it in the past.

Tim Thomas.

- dadeadhead


Just cause its been done doesn't make it right
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:32 PM ET
Just cause its been done doesn't make it right
- hubie



What's your feeling on trading for guys with high cap hits but lower salary to get to the cap floor?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:32 PM ET
Insurance is picking up something like 70% of it.
- dadeadhead


I don't care who's paying it, he's still getting paid.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:32 PM ET
Andreychuk got f$cked again I see


- homiedclown


Him and Mark Recchi...

It's going to be like Andre Reed waiting for the call, the players they have to compete with are just that good
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
What's your feeling on trading for guys with high cap hits but lower salary to get to the cap floor?
- dadeadhead


IF they are going to physically play the game I don't have an issue with it. But in these two examples they were not playing the game.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
Seriously, what would it take to pull Krug out of Boston????
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
Him and Mark Recchi...

It's going to be like Andre Reed waiting for the call, the players they have to compete with are just that good

- Stripes77


Mark Recchi has to get in.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:34 PM ET
Seriously, what would it take to pull Krug out of Boston????
- bobmack13


Currently, it seems a 12 pack of Paula's Donuts may get it done.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:35 PM ET
Seriously, what would it take to pull Krug out of Boston????
- bobmack13


Probably could have traded Hodgson for him.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:35 PM ET
1 Wayne Gretzky 2,857
2 Mark Messier 1,887
3 Gordie Howe 1,850
4 JAROMIR JAGR 1,802


Anyone notice Jagr may pass Howe this year and Messier next Holy Boogers
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:35 PM ET
Andreychuk got f$cked again I see


- homiedclown



274 pp goals
640 goals
698 assists
1338 points
+38 career +/-
1639 gp
23 yr career


640 goals should be an automatic IMO.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:36 PM ET
Probably could have traded Hodgson for him.
- Cheeseballin



If I were GMTM, I'd give them a semi legit offer, and see if it sticks.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:36 PM ET
1 Wayne Gretzky 2,857
2 Mark Messier 1,887
3 Gordie Howe 1,850
4 JAROMIR JAGR 1,802


Anyone notice Jagr may pass Howe this year and Messier next Holy Boogers

- hubie


Yes IMO he plays till he's past Mess.

Had he not played overseas the few years he could have ended up with 2000+ points.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:39 PM ET
If I were GMTM, I'd give them a semi legit offer, and see if it sticks.
- bobmack13


If they are in full tank mode for Matthews, unloading Krug would push them in the right direction.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:39 PM ET
Yes IMO he plays till he's past Mess.

Had he not played overseas the few years he could have ended up with 2000+ points.

- dadeadhead


Everything ive heard is he is still in shape two years seems well within possibility
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:41 PM ET
274 pp goals
640 goals
698 assists
1338 points
+38 career +/-
1639 gp
23 yr career


640 goals should be an automatic IMO.

- dadeadhead

http://www.quanthockey.co...r-play-goals-leaders.html


nhl rank
pp goals 1st
goals 14th
points 28th
gwg 31st
games played 6th
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
Yes IMO he plays till he's past Mess.

Had he not played overseas the few years he could have ended up with 2000+ points.

- dadeadhead


He could be over 2000 now or really close to it
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
Everything ive heard is he is still in shape two years seems well within possibility
- hubie



He is a 20 season away from passing Dionne and Hull for 4th and 3rd on the all time goal scoring list.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:44 PM ET
Too old, too much history, too much salary, wrong position
- Slump Buster



I agree with most of your post, except "wrong position" ,

Legit Right Wing is the Only Hole in our Top 6!
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:45 PM ET
He is a 20 season away from passing Dionne and Hull for 4th and 3rd on the all time goal scoring list.
- dadeadhead


very good point and think how many fewer games hed do it in
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