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Stripes77
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Jun 29 @ 2:45 PM ET
Um, this Mike Richards buyout doesn't exactly sound like a buyout, sounds like something that happens in court...

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle · 8m8 minutes ago
Obviously to avoid the Richards buyout penalties. Will it work? $15-million on the line.

https://twitter.com/mirtl...status/615589559091470336

There is the link with the photo
Irish 14
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Jun 29 @ 2:46 PM ET
Ok, because...
- jdfitz77


________. __________!!!!
Stripes77
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Jun 29 @ 2:47 PM ET
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak · 1m1 minute ago
ICYMI, The LAK are trying to circumvent a buyout of Mike Richards in which the termination will not count against their cap.

CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
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Jun 29 @ 2:47 PM ET
I think they want him
But they def have some work to do on their Cap
Idk if they can make it work
Esp now tht they added Lucic

Maybe if they can get rid of Voynov

That's an idea...
Anyone wanna "buy low" on Voynov?
Maybe a 2nd & 3rd next year gets it done?

- jdfitz77

You don't want Kessel because of his attitude yet you want a woman beater?
Stripes77
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Jun 29 @ 2:47 PM ET
________. __________!!!!
- Irish 14


He doesn't want a guy with an attitude problem but wants a guy who beats his wife...

Got it

Damn it Late again
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
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Jun 29 @ 2:48 PM ET
Reported public knowledge

I have not seen a video or direct quotes from Shanny or Babcock in any of this

- Stripes77



Because that would drive down his trade value even more
That they won't come out & say ANYTHING good about him is pretty telling IMO

Remember when Philly's GM kept saying there was no problem with Richards & Carter and that they weren't being shopped?
Then they got traded
And for very good returns

Why isn't that happening with Kessel
I think he's damaged goods
Maybe he can go to a team like Arizona & be a 40goal scorer for a team that will be a bored earlobe playoff contender
I just don't see him a a vital part to a Cup team
Besides the salary, there's just too many issues ON and OFF the ice
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
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Jun 29 @ 2:48 PM ET
Um, this Mike Richards buyout doesn't exactly sound like a buyout, sounds like something that happens in court...

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle · 8m8 minutes ago
Obviously to avoid the Richards buyout penalties. Will it work? $15-million on the line.



https://twitter.com/mirtl...status/615589559091470336

There is the link with the photo

- Stripes77


$10 says that cap space is frozen until this is decided
Stripes77
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Jun 29 @ 2:49 PM ET
$10 says that cap space is frozen until this is decided
- Slump Buster


That could be years down the road
Slump Buster
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Jun 29 @ 2:50 PM ET
That could be years down the road
- Stripes77


I wonder if they just reserve the amount that it would cost them per year if they have to buy him out.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 29 @ 2:51 PM ET
Voynov isn't counting against their cap at the moment. (well, when the season starts at least. I think it works the same as the LTIR type of thing).
- HonkFortheGoose



True,
But as soon as his situation is resolved he will count against the Cap
That could be mid-season
So they have to plan for it
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:52 PM ET
Um, this Mike Richards buyout doesn't exactly sound like a buyout, sounds like something that happens in court...

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle · 8m8 minutes ago
Obviously to avoid the Richards buyout penalties. Will it work? $15-million on the line.

https://twitter.com/mirtl...status/615589559091470336

There is the link with the photo

- Stripes77


If it works out for the Kings it'll be a steal. Wipe his cap hit off completely.
HonkFortheGoose
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Jun 29 @ 2:52 PM ET
He doesn't want a guy with an attitude problem but wants a guy who beats his wife...

Got it

Damn it Late again

- Stripes77



Oh my!!!!
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
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Jun 29 @ 2:54 PM ET
Because that would drive down his trade value even more
That they won't come out & say ANYTHING good about him is pretty telling IMO

Remember when Philly's GM kept saying there was no problem with Richards & Carter and that they weren't being shopped?
Then they got traded
And for very good returns

Why isn't that happening with Kessel
I think he's damaged goods
Maybe he can go to a team like Arizona & be a 40goal scorer for a team that will be a bored earlobe playoff contender
I just don't see him a a vital part to a Cup team
Besides the salary, there's just too many issues ON and OFF the ice

- jdfitz77


I think if the deal was decent I'd do it in a heartbeat. We have all these guys who can pass but no pure sniper. We get that and a defenseman and I'll start placeing bets for playoffs before the ink is dry
jdfitz77
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Jun 29 @ 2:54 PM ET
He is still suspended and will be until his case is resolved.

And I have a thing about domestic abuse.

- Stripes77



Fair enough
It's weird to me that she is coming out on his side & claiming it was a misunderstanding or whatever
Idk enough about the situation to really have a good opinion
I tend to separate athletes from their personal lives, but I can certainly understand why someone wouldn't want him
Good player though
Stripes77
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Jun 29 @ 2:55 PM ET
Fair enough
It's weird to me that she is coming out on his side & claiming it was a misunderstanding or whatever
Idk enough about the situation to really have a good opinion
I tend to separate athletes from their personal lives, but I can certainly understand why someone wouldn't want him
Good player though

- jdfitz77



See almost every case of domestic abuse, there is nothing weird about that whatsoever
HonkFortheGoose
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Jun 29 @ 2:56 PM ET
See almost every case of domestic abuse, there is nothing weird about that whatsoever
- Stripes77


This....

It's not rare at all.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 29 @ 2:57 PM ET
You don't want Kessel because of his attitude yet you want a woman beater?
- CaptainRivet



I listed MANY other reasons I didn't want Kessel as well

And where did I say "I WANT" Voynov?
I simply brought his name up for discussion
Read more...
And don't put words in my mouth please sir
Stripes77
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Jun 29 @ 2:57 PM ET
This....

It's not rare at all.

- HonkFortheGoose


Nope, sadly its pretty common
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 29 @ 3:00 PM ET
I think if the deal was decent I'd do it in a heartbeat. We have all these guys who can pass but no pure sniper. We get that and a defenseman and I'll start placeing bets for playoffs before the ink is dry
- Zschalberg



I wanna get back to the playoffs too
But I'm not taking on a cancer like Kessel unless they basically give him away to us
He's not worth all the negatives
IMO anyways
HonkFortheGoose
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Jun 29 @ 3:01 PM ET
Nope, sadly its pretty common
- Stripes77


It's because they're afraid if they say what actually happened they'll get beat again and they're afraid to leave for fear they'll get caught and beaten then too.

It's a vicious cycle. They usually don't say anything because they feel that's the only way they have any control over what's going on.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 29 @ 3:03 PM ET
See almost every case of domestic abuse, there is nothing weird about that whatsoever
- Stripes77



Ya, I know
My sis works with a lot of domestic abuse clients
Still just seems like a really weird situation for me with the Cops & lawyers an everything else involved

Not saying I necessarily want him
But some team could prob get a good player for cheap if they're willing to overlook this
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 29 @ 3:03 PM ET
See almost every case of domestic abuse, there is nothing weird about that whatsoever
- Stripes77



Ya, I know
My sis works with a lot of domestic abuse clients
Still just seems like a really weird situation for me with the Cops & lawyers an everything else involved

Not saying I necessarily want him
But some team could prob get a good player for cheap if they're willing to overlook this
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:10 PM ET
I wanna get back to the playoffs too
But I'm not taking on a cancer like Kessel unless they basically give him away to us
He's not worth all the negatives
IMO anyways

- jdfitz77


Maybe I missed it but I don't see all these blatant issues that make him a cancer. He's a one dimensional player but when that dimension is scoring at a high rate with the linemates he's had, I'd still be cool with it.

Imagine a top 6 of
Kane-Eichel-Kessel
Moulson-O'Reilly-Ennis

And you would still have Reinhart and Girgensons. That's a good looking offense IMO.
Stripes77
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Jun 29 @ 3:15 PM ET
http://sabresdigitalpress...ly-conference-call-audio/
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 29 @ 3:17 PM ET
I will say this, however, I think that if Murray does make a trade whether it be for Kessel, a top 6 winger, or a defenseman, it'll be for them plus. It seems like all of Murray's deals have his target guy but he likes to get things on the side as well. Bogo maybe, Legwand, McGinn.

I know each were different situations and maybe Bogo was a target as well and Legwand was a throw in but it just seems like Murray likes the more complex trade
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