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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:45 AM ET
Does anyone know who Frolik's centers have been when he was all three teams (panthers, hawks & jets)? I dont recall him playing top 6 role...
- joescullz

Whanna say Boland for Hawks. Jets has been fluid. I think he spent time with Olli Jokinen when he centered the second, but I think this year it sS mainly Little. All in all not the best centers in the world.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:46 AM ET
By "Blues" I assume you mean the Leafs? If not, I'm confused.
- errey12

Yeah, sorry Leafs. Strickland is a Blues guy.
errey12
Joined: 01.16.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:47 AM ET
Yeah, sorry Leafs. Strickland is a Blues guy.
- Tojo.

Crap! I was buying into the $2M retention on Oshie suggestion.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:47 AM ET
Ryan Wilson ‏@GunnerStaal 2h2 hours ago

Last 8 years Frolik's most common C's were

Weiss 1825:24
Scheifele 907:47
Little 749:21
Bolland 353:40

- YouMeAndDupuis9



None of them are that great... Kinda all Sutter or below quality point wise the years Frolik was with them.

Ok, I'm more on board with him now.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 29 @ 10:49 AM ET
Crap! I was buying into the $2M retention on Oshie suggestion.
- errey12


Why?? Oshie has a pretty favorable contract.
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Jun 29 @ 10:50 AM ET
I like Frolik - would be a good fit style and money wise (hopefully)...Parenteau is OK...smart hockey player (can be good with talented linemates) but doesn't have very good speed.

Richards...at almost any price...is too much money for not enough return.

Kessel...would be nice to have a goal scorer...but again...the money he gets paid...too much form my liking.


jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 29 @ 10:50 AM ET
IF they're retaining 2 mil I don't think you have to worry much. There will be 15 other teams with better packages lining up
- dbell646


Doesn't matter if Kessel won't waive beyond the 8 teams on his NTC list.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 10:51 AM ET
So can the Pens put a player on waivers for buy out tomorrow at noon or is today the last day? Not sure how that works. They wouldn't clear until noon July 1st if placed on waivers tomorrow
Conse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Joined: 11.27.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
Frank Seravalli ‏@frank_seravalli 1m1 minute ago
Michael Frolik has Montreal atop his list for UFA destinations, according to @renlavoietva.


zzzzzzzzz Why Frolik, WHY?
errey12
Joined: 01.16.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
Why?? Oshie has a pretty favorable contract.
- cap1681

I agree. Just a lame attempt at humor on my part.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
Doesn't matter if Kessel won't waive beyond the 8 teams on his NTC list.
- jfkst1

It does if at least the other 7 teams come to the table. I think most were out of it because they couldn't fit that cap hit. 6 mil more manageable
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
Why?? Oshie has a pretty favorable contract.
- cap1681



It was a joke by me... Guy before said 2 mil retained by Blues for Kessel... We assumed he meant Toronto, but I went ahead and decided he meant Oshie :D
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:53 AM ET
I'd much rather sign Frolik for $5m/yr than trade for Kessel.
- jfkst1

I think they should try to get a player in the style of each. One pure goal scorer and one good 2 way player. But in both cases, I like the players and their fit here, but I think they should look for cheaper options.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 29 @ 10:53 AM ET
Frank Seravalli ‏@frank_seravalli 1m1 minute ago
Michael Frolik has Montreal atop his list for UFA destinations, according to @renlavoietva.


zzzzzzzzz Why Frolik, WHY?

- Conse


Two reasons I wouldn't like that:
1. It would take away Frolik.
2. It would make Sharp more likely.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:54 AM ET
I think they should try to get a player in the style of each. One pure goal scorer and one good 2 way player. But in both cases, I like the players and their fit here, but I think they should look for cheaper options.
- Tojo.



So I hear Frolik and Semin? Lets get back on bringing some Semin all over Pittsburgh
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:55 AM ET
It was a joke by me... Guy before said 2 mil retained by Blues for Kessel... We assumed he meant Toronto, but I went ahead and decided he meant Oshie :D
- Guile

Yeah, I should message board less at work.....maybe next week.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 29 @ 10:55 AM ET
It does if at least the other 7 teams come to the table. I think most were out of it because they couldn't fit that cap hit. 6 mil more manageable
- dbell646


The Penguins are probably the best option team on his list.
http://www.pensionplanpup...ok-at-his-eight-team-list
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Jun 29 @ 10:55 AM ET
None of them are that great... Kinda all Sutter or below quality point wise the years Frolik was with them.

Ok, I'm more on board with him now.

- Guile


Little has 343 (146 goals) points in 556 nhl games
Sutter has 185 (98 goals) in 495
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 29 @ 10:56 AM ET
Yeah, I should message board less at work.....maybe next week.
- Tojo.



I got in trouble last week for messing around on Hockey's Cap at work. I'm addicted.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:56 AM ET
Little has 343 (146 goals) points in 556 nhl games
Sutter has 185 (98 goals) in 495

- icedog97


I was on the seasons he played with them, not the overall body of work... was click glancing year to year.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 29 @ 11:00 AM ET
Frank Seravalli ‏@frank_seravalli 1m1 minute ago
Michael Frolik has Montreal atop his list for UFA destinations, according to @renlavoietva.


zzzzzzzzz Why Frolik, WHY?

- Conse


If the Habs sign him, I throw a 5.4M offer sheet at Galchenyuk. They are pretty tight against the cap
errey12
Joined: 01.16.2008

Jun 29 @ 11:02 AM ET
If the Habs sign him, I throw a 5.4M offer sheet at Galchenyuk. They are pretty tight against the cap
- cap1681


Would be a gutsy move, but I like it. Would definitely mean you were off their Christmas card list though.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 29 @ 11:04 AM ET
Would be a gutsy move, but I like it. Would definitely mean you were off their Christmas card list though.
- errey12


I think the Habs don't do anything until they lock him up. They don't have much cap room as is, and he is going to get a decent contact.
lpstjg
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.28.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:07 AM ET
Would be a gutsy move, but I like it. Would definitely mean you were off their Christmas card list though.
- errey12


No way Lemieux allows us to do this to his buddy Bergevin.
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:07 AM ET
Two reasons I wouldn't like that:
1. It would take away Frolik.
2. It would make Sharp more likely.

- jfkst1


Something tells me we're signing Justin Williams or Joel Ward to a 3 year/9 mil deal.
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