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mmonana120
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.30.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:23 PM ET
Alright I took a whack at it:
https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/8959

I made the kessel deal for what was "reportedly" offered, plus the 2mil retained. The 4th line does look a little soft, but there is 2+ mil in cap space I created.

- drummer829


I like it, just some small changes. Move duper to left on 3rd, have BB be the RW on 3rd. More of a skill speed line. Comeau be on 4th line and sign Downie for 1 mil to be on 4th line. That more of a heavy, energy line that can score.

So bottom u are

Duper-Tik-BB
Comeau-Sund-Downie
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:23 PM ET
Alright I took a whack at it:
https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/8959

I made the kessel deal for what was "reportedly" offered, plus the 2mil retained. The 4th line does look a little soft, but there is 2+ mil in cap space I created.

- drummer829

That's a reasonable look at the roster. If you got Kessel, you really don't need to go big on the last spot. Very few teams actually use 6 true top 6 forwards these days.

You could balance out the toughness by going with a grittier player than Sheary (you have the space for Winnik, Wilson) or swapping Bennett with Dupuis or Comeau.

Edit although I don't think Toronto retains that much and takes all our cap dumps without getting more since the first deal wasn't enough.
Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Draft more Swedes, CA
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:24 PM ET
Completely agree. I think either Oshie or Frolik would be great additions in the fact that both their games compliment Malkin extremely well and would give him a creditable top 6 winger.
- cap1681

What Malkin needs is a really awesome defensive player in the mold of a Jere Lehtinen or Patrice Bergeron and a player who can set picks and screens. Pittsburgh happens to have a screen who can score; solving the other position is probably best done in a trade. Winnik is a very nice defensive forward but he's not a scoring line player.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:27 PM ET
Alright I took a whack at it:
https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/8959

I made the kessel deal for what was "reportedly" offered, plus the 2mil retained. The 4th line does look a little soft, but there is 2+ mil in cap space I created.

- drummer829


That looks pretty solid, only thing I would change is the Sutter trade. I think the Pens need to have a player coming back. I would much rather try to get Ellis so you don't have to sign Franson to a big contract. Use the Franson money for some forward depth. That top line would be fantastic though, perfect mix of players.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:27 PM ET
Only problem with this is Kap is a right wing, right wing only. I hope to God Pens do not do what they did with BB, move him to other wing where never played and loses all confidence. Bc then im afraid we destroy him too. If Kap is on the team, needs to be top 6 right wing. Or keep him on Baby Pens.
- mmonana120

I think Frolik plays both wings so not an issue.
mmonana120
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.30.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:28 PM ET
Have you been paying attention to the Stanley Cup Finals for the last seven seasons?
- Johnny Wrath


Yes, but its not bc they BUY there team. They make smart moves and have adjusted there roster. They earn that Championship every year, they don't buy it. Think, if no cap. Chicago wont have to sell off Bickle, Sharp, Versteeg, maybe Crawford. They can sign Saad to as much as they want. With Cap, they have to pick there posion.

Before the Cap, how good were the Pens? Didnt we constanly have to sell of our best players bc couldn't pay them.
Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Draft more Swedes, CA
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:34 PM ET
Yes, but its not bc they BUY there team. They make smart moves and have adjusted there roster. They earn that Championship every year, they don't buy it. Think, if no cap. Chicago wont have to sell off Bickle, Sharp, Versteeg, maybe Crawford. They can sign Saad to as much as they want. With Cap, they have to pick there posion.

Before the Cap, how good were the Pens? Didnt we constanly have to sell of our best players bc couldn't pay them.

- mmonana120

The owner of the Penguins bankrupted the franchise. That's clearly not the same point as Pittsburgh being a sustainable market. It's still a small market by most standards. Pittsburgh made it to the Eastern Finals before selling off in a very big way months later in 2001 mainly because of ownership.

Speaking of which, Chicago was a black hole under it's immediate former owner. He refused to put games on television and their best forward was Kyle Calder. Changing the league into a cap league was pure coincidence with Chicago being under new ownership. I would say the same thing about Tampa Bay.
lpstjg
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.28.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:36 PM ET
As per the Blues site, Sobotka will remain in the KHL, does that increase their interest in Sutter?
Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Draft more Swedes, CA
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:37 PM ET
As per the Blues site, Sobotka will remain in the KHL, does that increase their interest in Sutter?
- lpstjg

Boy I sure hope so. I hope they like Sutter more than Berglund.

Marty St. Louis in Pittsburgh Gold?
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:38 PM ET
Alright I took a whack at it:
https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/8959

I made the kessel deal for what was "reportedly" offered, plus the 2mil retained. The 4th line does look a little soft, but there is 2+ mil in cap space I created.

- drummer829


I think that is an extremely optimistic Kessel trade that has very little chance of happening. Leafs fans would be furious with that return.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
Tried doing some of my own research on Stalberg, strange patterns to his game. If he can sign a Downie-Comeau like deal in the 1 mill range that could pay off. Or it could be stupid and useless and do nothing. Either way buy out scuds already dammit.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
I think that is an extremely optimistic Kessel trade that have very little chance of happening. Leafs fans would be furious with that return.
- jfkst1


Oh I'm making another one without kessel. This site is pretty fun
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
As per the Blues site, Sobotka will remain in the KHL, does that increase their interest in Sutter?
- lpstjg


He was a center so probably so.
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:40 PM ET
Boy I sure hope so. I hope they like Sutter more than Berglund.

Marty St. Louis in Pittsburgh Gold?

- Johnny Wrath


It'll happen, he's gonna get a 1yr deal with performance incentives. Almost guaranteed.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:40 PM ET
As per the Blues site, Sobotka will remain in the KHL, does that increase their interest in Sutter?
- lpstjg



It can't reduce their interest
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:41 PM ET
Boy I sure hope so. I hope they like Sutter more than Berglund.

Marty St. Louis in Pittsburgh Gold?

- Johnny Wrath

I could dig it.
Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Draft more Swedes, CA
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:43 PM ET
It'll happen, he's gonna get a 1yr deal with performance incentives. Almost guaranteed.
- BourbonCounty

Among those incentives is "automatic spot among the Penguins' assistant GM posse".
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:44 PM ET
I think that is an extremely optimistic Kessel trade that has very little chance of happening. Leafs fans would be furious with that return.
- jfkst1

A good compromise on the retention would be 1M retained and one bad contract, preferably Scuderi's. Then it's a matter of making the rest work and who caves first.
lpstjg
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.28.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:44 PM ET
Maybe that Oshie trade becomes more likely now that they really need a center.
Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Draft more Swedes, CA
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:48 PM ET
A good compromise on the retention would be 1M retained and one bad contract, preferably Scuderi's. Then it's a matter of making the rest work and who caves first.
- Tojo.

I think a deal was in place until Ruth spit into his hand immediately before the closing handshake on the draft floor.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:48 PM ET
https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/3503

Oshie and frolik on the team.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:49 PM ET
https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/3503

Oshie and frolik on the team.

- drummer829



Strong team... but us being near the cap just has me nervous after it backfired last season.

Edit: You do have an extra 650K in cap space, since Wilson would be sent down... assuming Lovejoy will be the extra man traveling with the team.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
I think a deal was in place until Ruth spit into his hand immediately before the closing handshake on the draft floor.
- Johnny Wrath

lpstjg
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.28.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/3503

Oshie and frolik on the team.

- drummer829


That 485k cap space tho
Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Draft more Swedes, CA
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:52 PM ET

- ChrisMS

He would totally do that, right? And mention something about gumption and proclaim that he liked someone's moxie.
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