Thank you, things aren't Black/White, there are shades of grey......

If Rich Nash was 26 yrs old I would trade him for Tyler Ennis and accept the increased Salary. I don't know how more plain I can make it, his age and salary are a part of the equation.
- MEBSabresFAN

He's 31, not 36 or 37. He still has plenty of years left. Players of his caliber don't just forget how to play hockey after they turn 30.

Rich Nash is 31 and declining 7.8 3 years (Hi I can't remember the All-Star game and I'm 34 yrs old)

Tyler Ennis is 26 and rising 4.6 4 years (Hi I just spent the past two years at the All-Star Game I'm 29 yrs old)

We can have different opinions. I truly believe we are better with Ennis going forward at 4yrs 4.6 Than Rick Nash at 7.8
- MEBSabresFAN

why are you talking in third person and if someone gave us Rick Nash for Tyler Ennis I would do it in a second

You mean the guy that scored 42 goals this year only a few short than Ennis had total points??

Look I like Ennis but if Sather came to Murray and said we could have Nash for Ennis straight up and he said no then he needs to re-evaluate his career.
- Stripes77

You're completely missing the point. Nash is clearly the better player right now. We aren't competing for a cup for at least 2 years so Nash does nothing for me. Year 3 he is in his walk year at age 34. For that reason Ennis is a better value.

Bet a lot of people thought hossa was declining as well. Cap hit is the only thing i'd take ennis over nash.
- Sabresfan-365

I don' think you can compare Hossa and Nash. One shows up in the playoffs. One has three cups. One is considered one of the best two way players in the game. The other is nash

the debates not who is better... Its on is ennis + + worth nash? Ennis is already signed at a great contract and he fits the rebuild perfectly. Not sure how a guy who is gonna be a FA when we are a legit cup contender fits. Sure it will be fun to watch but its not worth it.
- Smittyx36

You just said this

I don't get why so many people want Oshie. He isn't anything special.

I love the team up front as is. Not worth tearing it apart for Nash. All we need is to sign a top 4 D guy and add depth to the D. Watch this team be a biotch to play against and sneak into the playoffs.
- Smittyx36

Yea getting Nash would greatly increase our case to push for the playoffs this year, and as you said it, be a biotch to play against.

And I am not blinking if it cost us, Ennis, Foligno (who we just acquired a similar player in McGinn) a 2nd and a prospect such as Cornel.

I don' think you can compare Hossa and Nash. One shows up in the playoffs. One has three cups. One is considered one of the best two way players in the game. The other is nash
- Smittyx36

Great point

i think its hard for some to get that. People see ennis for nash and don't take into consideration anything else apparently
- Smittyx36

Really cause in 3 years I'll still take Nash's overall game and 60 points a year over Ennis...

You're clearly not ready...

If Murray had a deal to get OEL for next years first and second round pick and he said no cause the draft is in Buffalo he should be fired immediately.
- Stripes77

I agree with Stripes on this one.

TM doesn't care about anybody coming to a draft party, he only cares about making this team better, With Talent & Cap Management

He's 31, not 36 or 37. He still has plenty of years left. Players of his caliber don't just forget how to play hockey after they turn 30.
- buffalofan19

Stats clearly show a significant dropoff in scoring when a player gets to his 30's (and really, after his mid-20's). It isn't like Nash is a witch in his own end.

Great point
- Slump Buster

To be fair, Hossa has been on much better teams than Nash has. Marian Hossa has played on some very offensively gifted teams. The New York Rangers are average offensively. It's largely goaltending and defense that puts that team near the top...and it's that very factor that keeps them from actually reaching the very top.

Great point
- Slump Buster

Nash has a great two way game and was 3rd on his team in scoring in the playoffs...

Psssst.........Nash's contract is alomst DOUBLE Ennis , will Nash Double Ennis scoring over the next 4 years?

No, plesae watch more hockey.....
- MEBSabresFAN

It's a moot point anyways. We don't have the capital to trade for him

You just said this



Yea getting Nash would greatly increase our case to push for the playoffs this year, and as you said it, be a biotch to play against.
- Mentalorgasm5

you can be a biotch to play against and not be a cup contender just yet. Sorry I'm realistic and i dont expect Eichel and Reinhart and all the new guys to come in and jell right away and make us a contender this year or next year. I said we would could sneak into the playoffs. 16 teams do make it after all...

I agree with Stripes on this one.

TM doesn't care about anybody coming to a draft party, he only cares about making this team better, With Talent & Cap Management
- MEBSabresFAN

TM won't take a high-cost guy that doesn't fit the profile of what he wants. That isn't Nash. If I wanted 7.8 a year I'd take Kessel.

You're clearly not ready...

If Murray had a deal to get OEL for next years first and second round pick and he said no cause the draft is in Buffalo he should be fired immediately.
- Stripes77

and that would happen in a million years if something like that happened he would obviously trade the pick if it's not an all star player he's not going to trade the first round pick

Stats clearly show a significant dropoff in scoring when a player gets to his 30's (and really, after his mid-20's). It isn't like Nash is a witch in his own end.
- Slump Buster

You don't watch enough then to not think he isn't good in his own end...he also is one of the Rangers top penalty killers.

He's 31, not 36 or 37. He still has plenty of years left. Players of his caliber don't just forget how to play hockey after they turn 30.
- buffalofan19

How many more pts will Nash out perform Ennis next year?

I don' think you can compare Hossa and Nash. One shows up in the playoffs. One has three cups. One is considered one of the best two way players in the game. The other is nash
- Smittyx36

Hossa never won a cup when he was expected to be the best forward on his team, Nash has never been on a team where he wasn't expected to he the best forward. Replace Nash in Hossa ' s situation and the results are the same

It's a moot point anyways. We don't have the capital to trade for him
- sbroads24

40 goals or not, teams aren't clammoring to take on that contract. Ennis would make the most sense in a return and hence the converation.

How many more pts will Nash out perform Ennis next year?
- MEBSabresFAN

20. At least. And yes, it's worth it.

Really cause in 3 years I'll still take Nash's overall game and 60 points a year over Ennis...
- Stripes77

Yea and in three years Nash hits the open market and goes to the team closest to winning the cup. Maybe us but maybe not us. Its a risk. I don't expect us to be a cup contender till maybe his final year of his contract. That's a big risk. And it would take Ennis, +, +. I would obviously trade ennis straight up. I'm not that much of a homer

and that would happen in a million years if something like that happened he would obviously trade the pick if it's not an all star player he's not going to trade the first round pick
- gerbe75pts

Umm...Rick Nash is an all star...

I don' think you can compare Hossa and Nash. One shows up in the playoffs. One has three cups. One is considered one of the best two way players in the game. The other is nash
- Smittyx36

Nash is a pretty good two way player as well and doesn't play with Kane and Toews. Overall is playoff numbers are pretty good. I don't necessarily agree that we should be trading for him but the argument that he's declining after he just put up 42 goals doesn't make any sense.

Hossa never won a cup when he was expected to be the best forward on his team, Nash has never been on a team where he wasn't expected to he the best forward. Replace Nash in Hossa ' s situation and the results are the same
- sbroads24

Right, which is why you pay a guy like Hossa 5 mill and not a guy like Nash 7.8 mill. Your point is still accurate - you need guys to be "the guy". Nash will never be that guy.

You're completely missing the point. Nash is clearly the better player right now. We aren't competing for a cup for at least 2 years so Nash does nothing for me. Year 3 he is in his walk year at age 34. For that reason Ennis is a better value.
- Slump Buster

Nash at 34 will have more value than Ennis does. And I'm a huge Ennis fan.

Nash is a lethal goal scoring 200 ft playing power forward. There aren't many like him