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jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 28 @ 6:52 PM ET
Its funny, the Flyers culture has changed, but the fans' culture hasnt. Can we get Oshie? Can we get Kessel? Oh plz plz plz get Phaneuf!

The shiny pieces are not the answer. Some of us havent caught on yet.

- Doc_Sarcasm


Just say no the the big sexy contracts other than keeping Voracek
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 6:52 PM ET
What's with all the Kessel talk?
- Marc D


Ek rumored philly interested. I don't want him. But i have to show my package just in case
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 6:55 PM ET
Yes, but those trades rarely seem to happen. If we could grab Brendan Lemieux from Bufffalo for Hagg after they just lost Zadorov that would be sweet.

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=177647

- Feanor

Claude Lemieux's son
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 6:58 PM ET
Claude Lemieux's son
- five4fighting10


And not shockingly plays a game very similar to his father
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jun 28 @ 6:58 PM ET
what if we traded laughton haag and read for oshie?
- 2Real


overpayment IMO TBH BRB
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 6:59 PM ET
overpayment IMO TBH BRB
- black_francis


What is this love for Oshie, he's really not that good & up for a new contract soon.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 28 @ 7:00 PM ET
i don't want any of those (frank)ing guys. no thanks.
- hammarby31



Hint; You werent one of the ones I was accusing of not having caught on yet.


Also, I wouldnt want any part of Kessel or Phaneuf even if they didnt carry ridiculous term and money.


Oshie... under other circimstances, I might have interest.


I don't think the Flyers should be moving assets that are worth keeping. They should be moving contracts that they can't afford or may not be able to afford next season in the event of the cap contracting.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 28 @ 7:06 PM ET
Hint; You werent one of the ones I was accusing of not having caught on yet.


Also, I wouldnt want any part of Kessel or Phaneuf even if they didnt carry ridiculous term and money.


Oshie... under other circimstances, I might have interest.


I don't think the Flyers should be moving assets that are worth keeping. They should be moving contracts that they can't afford or may not be able to afford next season in the event of the cap contracting.

- Doc_Sarcasm


I thought the preliminary estimate was $73 million? NHLNUMBERS uses $71.5 million as the cap.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 28 @ 7:10 PM ET
Its funny, the Flyers culture has changed, but the fans' culture hasnt. Can we get Oshie? Can we get Kessel? Oh plz plz plz get Phaneuf!

The shiny pieces are not the answer. Some of us havent caught on yet.

- Doc_Sarcasm

Phaneuf maybe was a shiny piece in Calgary last 2 seasons he have been awful and he will only regress
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 28 @ 7:27 PM ET
What is this love for Oshie, he's really not that good & up for a new contract soon.
- ob18


I do like Oshie at the right price...

But..

One guy I find interesting is Seabrook.
Will the Hawks let him walk next year?
Can they afford him?
Will they pay him more than Keith ( that would not be right)

Instead of all this Kessel talk, which I pray is not true. If the Flyers were going to trade assets I would look at the possibilities of someone like Seabrook.

Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 28 @ 7:28 PM ET
I thought the preliminary estimate was $73 million? NHLNUMBERS uses $71.5 million as the cap.
- jstross



I wasnt clear. When I said next year, I didnt mean this coming season, I meant the following season. Apparently the NHLPA voted to use the cap escalator this season, which will increase the cap. The following season is totally up in the air.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...5-16-salary-cap-at-71-4m/


I find it somewhat tricky and confusing, and my grasp of the details are fuzzy. But, it doesnt look promising.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 7:37 PM ET
I do like Oshie at the right price...

But..

One guy I find interesting is Seabrook.
Will the Hawks let him walk next year?
Can they afford him?
Will they pay him more than Keith ( that would not be right)

Instead of all this Kessel talk, which I pray is not true. If the Flyers were going to trade assets I would look at the possibilities of someone like Seabrook.

- 3flyerkids


11. In the Stanley Cup celebration, Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman jubilantly told Brent Seabrook he wasn’t going anywhere. All of the attention is on Marcus Kruger, Brandon Saad and Patrick Sharp. But Bowman is well-aware of Seabrook, who can be a UFA next summer. The two sides have talked and don’t be surprised if Chicago makes this a big priority in the next few weeks.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...s-bieksa-deserves-better/
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 28 @ 7:39 PM ET
Who does Sam Gagner know on the Flyers?
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 28 @ 7:47 PM ET
11. In the Stanley Cup celebration, Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman jubilantly told Brent Seabrook he wasn’t going anywhere. All of the attention is on Marcus Kruger, Brandon Saad and Patrick Sharp. But Bowman is well-aware of Seabrook, who can be a UFA next summer. The two sides have talked and don’t be surprised if Chicago makes this a big priority in the next few weeks.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...s-bieksa-deserves-better/

- ob18


Thanks, I never saw that or heard of any Seabrook talk. It will be interesting to see how the Hawks arrange their cap
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 28 @ 8:09 PM ET
11. In the Stanley Cup celebration, Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman jubilantly told Brent Seabrook he wasn’t going anywhere. All of the attention is on Marcus Kruger, Brandon Saad and Patrick Sharp. But Bowman is well-aware of Seabrook, who can be a UFA next summer. The two sides have talked and don’t be surprised if Chicago makes this a big priority in the next few weeks.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...s-bieksa-deserves-better/

- ob18



The interesting thing is that his cap hit is already more than DK. And it isn't going to go lower.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:14 PM ET
The interesting thing is that his cap hit is already more than DK. And it isn't going to go lower.
- MBFlyerfan


It will be a cause of the next lockout, maybe not the only reason but part of it.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jun 28 @ 8:16 PM ET
Richie coming back to Philly or what fellas ?!?!?!?
- flyerfan28



Oh the visions of Richards and Umberger on the same line!!!

YES! PLEASE!

OH WAIT!!!

Vinny, Richie and RJ!!!

Imagine that line out on the ice and the fear it would strike into the other 29 teams!!!





/sarcasm

Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:35 PM ET
So kessel is not popular here
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 8:44 PM ET
11. In the Stanley Cup celebration, Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman jubilantly told Brent Seabrook he wasn’t going anywhere. All of the attention is on Marcus Kruger, Brandon Saad and Patrick Sharp. But Bowman is well-aware of Seabrook, who can be a UFA next summer. The two sides have talked and don’t be surprised if Chicago makes this a big priority in the next few weeks.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...s-bieksa-deserves-better/

- ob18



Seabrook you go nowhere!!! Sharp you can F off!!
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:45 PM ET
Its funny, the Flyers culture has changed, but the fans' culture hasnt. Can we get Oshie? Can we get Kessel? Oh plz plz plz get Phaneuf!

The shiny pieces are not the answer. Some of us havent caught on yet.

- Doc_Sarcasm




I agree,but we do need a top 6 forward at some point
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 28 @ 8:46 PM ET
So kessel is not popular here
- Winning


too much money, too much term for a guy who doesnt play a 200 ft game, of which the new coach and the GM are very fond.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:47 PM ET
So kessel is not popular here
- Winning


Well his cap hit isnt.....
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 28 @ 8:51 PM ET
So kessel is not popular here
- Winning


I like him, but I'm not interested in trading a ton of assets for a 27 year old with an $8mm contract
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 28 @ 8:55 PM ET
FA is so weak, unless you have something cooking with Michael Frolik, to me, you might as well see if Gagner can be a set-up man for Simmonds as ES

I am no capologist, but one year of Sam Gagner on the books can't be something that prevents them from doing something else they might want to do

- AllInForFlyers


I think because of the weak FA class, you target a Frolik you're overpaying...might as well see what Gagner can do.

However, I'm fine with a trade for a bigger ticket, provided it's for a younger guy on a ELC or bridge deal, who fits in. No big ticket/superstar guy with a huge contract, just a solid middle six winger.

Maybe you buy out Gagner and see who is still unsigned by late July, and then make a cheap signing for a one year deal. See if you can find a MDZ or Tom Gilbert up front.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:56 PM ET
you think Vinny is already agreed to mutual termination after july
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