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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:49 PM ET
Ya, most likely...
But I don't think it's a sure thing
I kind of always suspected he'd wanna go UFA

Why did the AVs decide to trade him when they've been saying all along they wanted to sign him?
I wouldn't say I'm worried,
But until he is signed I'll be concerned a bit

- jdfitz77



Was worried about that too but at this point i think they'll overpay to keep him. Worst case scenario he gets moved again but i doubt murray risks him walking next year.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:50 PM ET
That is only true with the first 5 picks in the first round, after that the odds are pretty even throughout the 1st round. 2nd is a crap-shoot, and 3-7 is almost a zero percent chance of hitting.

But dont take my word for it, look through the past drafts.

- Mentalorgasm5



That makes sense
It's also partly why I'm bothered by some of these trades
Example
Compher is a guy I think will work out
There are quite a few other guys I'm not so high on

I'm not slitting my wrists or anything here
But there should be concerns as to what's going on at the moment
I think ppl are just praising Murray BC we got used to Datcy not doing much of anything

Making the WRONG move is worse than doing nothing

Of course,
It remains to be seen how this will all play out
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:52 PM ET
Was worried about that too but at this point i think they'll overpay to keep him. Worst case scenario he gets moved again but i doubt murray risks him walking next year.
- Sabresfan-365



If we do try & move him though,
I doubt we get a "Zadorov" back

Prob a 1st & mid level prospect

I'm obv also worried about how much we "overpay"
It's a legit issue with all the other guys we'll have to pay over the next few years
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:54 PM ET
This is freaking me out but I keep staring
- sbroads24


I'd check out that party
Hahaha
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:56 PM ET
Btw...
Where are the AVs posters that kept saying ROR wasn't getting traded?
I'm curious what their take is on all this
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:58 PM ET
I'd be a lot more ok with it if I didn't think ROR was gonna screw up the salary structure
And I happen to like Compher a lot & dislike some of our other prospects a lot
Hurley, Cornel, Karabacek, Carrier... And quite a few others I'd have rather given up
Even Fasching

- jdfitz77


Murray was very indifferent about Compher. I heard him say it in an interview. He liked Baptiste a lot, Bailey too. He said Compher, he hadn't made up his mind about.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:03 PM ET
And this is what some people don't get, Murray will have no currency in 3 or 4 years when we need to add at the deadline or offseason.
- sbroads24

And, that is why I am still furious about him giving up our 21st pick for this unknown goalie with concussion issues!
And, now I hear we are also on Gibson!!
So, why did we even go for Lehner?
It make absolutely ZERO sense!!!
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:03 PM ET
That makes sense
It's also partly why I'm bothered by some of these trades
Example
Compher is a guy I think will work out
There are quite a few other guys I'm not so high on

I'm not slitting my wrists or anything here
But there should be concerns as to what's going on at the moment
I think ppl are just praising Murray BC we got used to Datcy not doing much of anything

Making the WRONG move is worse than doing nothing

Of course,
It remains to be seen how this will all play out

- jdfitz77

Yes but you are worrying about guys who might work out, when we landed two guys we now that will, Kane and O'Reilly, and one guy who has shown flashes, Lehner.

I am not sure if people truly understand how bad the odds are in the draft, even the odds of the 1st round. Its nowhere near as high as the NFL.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:04 PM ET
This is freaking me out but I keep staring
- sbroads24

Go listen to Murray and grab a handful of magical mushrooms.................enjoy
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:06 PM ET
And, that is why I am still furious about him giving up our 21st pick for this unknown goalie with concussion issues!
And, now I hear we are also on Gibson!!
So, why did we even go for Lehner?
It make absolutely ZERO sense!!!

- Sabresfan88


It was Eklund who said that...
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:06 PM ET
And, that is why I am still furious about him giving up our 21st pick for this unknown goalie with concussion issues!
And, now I hear we are also on Gibson!!
So, why did we even go for Lehner?
It make absolutely ZERO sense!!!

- Sabresfan88

Come on really? You're going to believe EK? You've been around long enough to know better.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:07 PM ET
Murray was very indifferent about Compher. I heard him say it in an interview. He liked Baptiste a lot, Bailey too. He said Compher, he hadn't made up his mind about.
- sippyd

The trade was suppose to be Risto, Gringo and Bailey amd the 31st but Murray said no.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:08 PM ET
And, that is why I am still furious about him giving up our 21st pick for this unknown goalie with concussion issues!
And, now I hear we are also on Gibson!!
So, why did we even go for Lehner?
It make absolutely ZERO sense!!!

- Sabresfan88


@THNKenCampbell: Bob Murray on John Gibson: "John Gibson is not getting traded. So put that (expletive) out there, OK. That's enough."

I'm pretty sure we aren't in on Gibson....

Also nobody on these boards knows Lehner better than Tim Murray. You don't have to like the trade, I'm not a fan either, but the trade itself does make sense. He got a goalie under 25 he feels can be a number 1 on a contending team.

I'm not saying you have to like it, but to say it doesn't make sense isn't true if you've listened to what Murray has said he is trying to build.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:08 PM ET
The trade was suppose to be Risto, Gringo and Bailey amd the 31st but Murray said no.
- SABRES 89


You haven't heard we are in on Gibson have you? I just can't imagine that...
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:09 PM ET
The trade was suppose to be Risto, Gringo and Bailey amd the 31st but Murray said no.
- SABRES 89

Are we going after a UFA dman or a trade?
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:10 PM ET
@THNKenCampbell: Bob Murray on John Gibson: "John Gibson is not getting traded. So put that (expletive) out there, OK. That's enough."

I'm pretty sure we aren't in on Gibson....

Also nobody on these boards knows Lehner better than Tim Murray. You don't have to like the trade, I'm not a fan either, but the trade itself does make sense. He got a goalie under 25 he feels can be a number 1 on a contending team.

I'm not saying you have to like it, but to say it doesn't make sense isn't true if you've listened to what Murray has said he is trying to build.

- Stripes77

So, we could have not be able to build with giving away a 3rd for Lack?????
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
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Jun 27 @ 10:12 PM ET
So, we could have not be able to build with giving away a 3rd for Lack?????
- Sabresfan88


Is Lack 25 and under? Did Murray have a say in drafting Lack like he did Lehner?

Take a step back and think about it rationally. I didn't like giving up the 1st. In fact I hated it at first. I'm still not a fan but it's not the end of the world.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:13 PM ET
The trade was suppose to be Risto, Gringo and Bailey amd the 31st but Murray said no.
- SABRES 89


Now that I wouldn't like at all. It would have been the ultimate overpayment.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:14 PM ET
Is Lack 25 and under? Did Murray have a say in drafting Lack like he did Lehner?

Take a step back and think about it rationally. I didn't like giving up the 1st. In fact I hated it at first. I'm still not a fan but it's not the end of the world.

- Stripes77

I feel like we could have make better use of that 21st pick, and did not need a goalie that bad to waste that pick on a goalie.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:15 PM ET
You haven't heard we are in on Gibson have you? I just can't imagine that...
- Cup Crazy '07


Heard a couple of days ago he's not on the block.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:16 PM ET
Is Lack 25 and under? Did Murray have a say in drafting Lack like he did Lehner?

Take a step back and think about it rationally. I didn't like giving up the 1st. In fact I hated it at first. I'm still not a fan but it's not the end of the world.

- Stripes77

Too much Darcy move here still. Everyone, even other bloggers on this site, are praising the sabres. Gibson and lehner has the highest ceilings if the available goalies, only one was available, we grabbed him.

I wouldn't be surprised if the oilers were offering 33 for Lehner and Ottawa called us and said it's got to be 21 to send him in division.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:17 PM ET
You haven't heard we are in on Gibson have you? I just can't imagine that...
- Cup Crazy '07

Nothing on Gibson, he seems to want to go with Lehner and I don't agree with that.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:17 PM ET
Are we going after a UFA dman or a trade?
- Mentalorgasm5


Yes, we need a top pairing veteran.... Sekera, Ehrhoff, Martin, Oduya

???-Bogo
Gorges-Risto
Weber-Pysyk
Ruhwedal

sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:17 PM ET
I feel like we could have make better use of that 21st pick, and did not need a goalie that bad to waste that pick on a goalie.
- Sabresfan88


He overpaid and he knows it. First thing he said, "people will say I overpaid". Yep.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:18 PM ET
I feel like we could have make better use of that 21st pick, and did not need a goalie that bad to waste that pick on a goalie.
- Sabresfan88


We absolutely needed a goalie that bad. The big thing about Lehner is he had 2 years left on his contract and then a RFA, not a UFA to be after this coming season like Talbot and Lack.

Like I said before I wasn't happy about it, but if it was 31 instead of 21, then 21 was going for ROR.
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