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B. Murray on Lehner: "I didn't want to put him in Buffalo I wanted him to go out west, but we couldn't get a deal done to our satisfaction."
- jochfr

Here is the video from that quote

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flip side, I would rather give 21 up for Lehner then 31 for lack or talbot
- homiedclown

Would have done none of the above.

Murray said the scouts/team believe they can get a comparable player at 31 and that made 21 expendable.
- Pierceme69

Huh? Did he really say that?

How many rounds do they pick tonight?

The more and more I look at it... I'm not that mad at all. We are not looking at this in a 3-3-4 year window any more. TM wants to put a playoff contending team on the ice next year. He is taking young and promising players from other teams. If the guys he was getting came with guarantees or surefire then they wouldn't be available for the most part.

Lehner is a young goalie w/ 86 games of experience and a Calder cup. Fits the mold.

Legwand is a bottom 6 vet who is quite good on the dot and can take 2nd line pk duties and such like a Gaustad could. He could also be a good mentor to have around for Eichel to learn the craft of a 2 way center. It's one flipping year and we have a ton of space.

21st pick was house money from Vanek trade. Not crazy about giving it up but I am more in a "now" mood too.
- JVince11

Great post, nice to see!

We'll agree to disagree on that one. Markstrom had some injuries he worked through but had an amazing year this season. I think he's the better of the two goalies.
- Iggysbff

He's great at the AHL level. Hasn't done anything of note at the NHL level. His 3.19 GAA and .896 sv% at the NHL level tells me all I need to know at this point.

So we should all delete our accounts and forget about ever talking about hockey again?
- hubie

no, I am just done beating the horse


like the kane trade, I did not like it at first

a few hours later, I am ok with it

Is Legwand good at faceoffs? I want a guy that's good at faceoffs. We haven't had one since we traded Gaustad.
- HonkFortheGoose

Yes but he better realize he is a fourth liner at best. him and mccormick will make up that line. ( i hate both of their cap hits) i am thinking currently it looks like this at least at the start of the season...


Kane-Eichel-Girgensons
Moulson-Reinhart-Ennis
Foligno-Larsson-Gionta
McCormick-Legwand-Kaleta/Schaller

Is Legwand good at faceoffs? I want a guy that's good at faceoffs. We haven't had one since we traded Gaustad.
- HonkFortheGoose

46.6%

I want to know how Pegula gave this a green light. Or maybe he's just:

- Dr3aMWeav3r

He doesn't need time to grow and acclimate? So you're saying when you start a job you just immediately know exactly how things work and it's like you're a seasoned vet there?

Please....each post you seem to put up today is more ludicrous than the prior.
- HonkFortheGoose

Havent you always said that goaltending has never been an issue for the Sabres, and you aren't too worried about going out and finding one??

Wouldn't this trade be the opposite of how you felt?

flip side, I would rather give 21 up for Lehner then 31 for lack or talbot
- homiedclown

Absolutely....the age is the kicker for me.

46% last year


- homiedclown

20 goals in his last 163 games

Man, when this GM thing goes south for him, he will be excellent at selling used cars
- sbroads24

By the time this is done he's either going to look like a genius or a moron.

Also I noticed Lehner isn't Canadian

tim murray knows Lehner better then all of us combined


that is all I have to add to this conversation
- homiedclown

Yes.

Except for Billy Mayes over there.

Yes but he better realize he is a fourth liner at best. him and mccormick will make up that line. ( i hate both of their cap hits) i am thinking currently it looks like this at least at the start of the season...


Kane-Eichel-Girgensons
Moulson-Reinhart-Ennis
Foligno-Larsson-Gionta
McCormick-Legwand-Kaleta/Schaller
- Beezer33

http://faceoffs.net/player/david-legwand

how is legwand good on the dot again?

I expected their to be growing pains but I want Reinhart to experience those growing pains with good players. This is going back to the Grigerenko John Scott argument.. If Reinhart is in the NHL and is playing with Foligino and Gionta who have about as much offensive talent as Reinhart does in his pinkie than it will be wasting his valuable learning time. If he starts in AHL it would make no sense because Murray has stated publicly he expects Reinhart to play in the NHL full time this year unless he proves he can't. So let's say Reinhart proves he's NHL ready. Now what do you do... Eichel or Reinhart starting on 4th line gets you nowhere and I doubt Legwand plays there. I just don't like the idea of adding another center. I'd much prefer a cap dump of a d man or winger
- bluengold12

I get what you're saying and I agree but I think that Bylsma has a plan when it comes to this to ease them in and put them in the right situation. Remember this isn't Nolan or Ruff or Rolston. I don't know exactly how he does with kids but I've liked what I've heard so far.

tim murray knows Lehner better then all of us combined


that is all I have to add to this conversation
- homiedclown

^^^^This^^^^

I expected their to be growing pains but I want Reinhart to experience those growing pains with good players. This is going back to the Grigerenko John Scott argument.. If Reinhart is in the NHL and is playing with Foligino and Gionta who have about as much offensive talent as Reinhart does in his pinkie than it will be wasting his valuable learning time. If he starts in AHL it would make no sense because Murray has stated publicly he expects Reinhart to play in the NHL full time this year unless he proves he can't. So let's say Reinhart proves he's NHL ready. Now what do you do... Eichel or Reinhart starting on 4th line gets you nowhere and I doubt Legwand plays there. I just don't like the idea of adding another center. I'd much prefer a cap dump of a d man or winger
- bluengold12

Cody Hodgson says hi.

Why is it that Reinhart could be on the 4th line but Legwand can't? Do you even read what you type??

46.6%
- jochfr

late

Murray said the scouts/team believe they can get a comparable player at 31 and that made 21 expendable.
- Pierceme69

And I completely believe that.

It's sounding more and more like it's going to be VERY hard to get into the low teens.

no, I am just done beating the horse


like the kane trade, I did not like it at first

a few hours later, I am ok with it
- homiedclown

I hear yeah, lets wait for the games to be played.

20 goals in his last 163 games
- Buffalo--Sabres

so a little better then kaleta or scott

How many rounds do they pick tonight?
- dain11279

Just Round 1 tonight, the rest tomorrow

No, just a die-hard Sabres fan, whom been through so much BS these past few years, to accumulate picks, and see it evaporate for literally nothing in return!
- Sabresfan88

43 year old, lifelong fan here, as well.

But to say Lehner is nothing isn't giving the kid a fair shake.

He was phenomenal his rookie year, slipped his 2nd year and got hurt last year. These types of trades are why the GM and his pro scouts get paid the big bucks.

I'm confident that if Murray didn't see something in him that he wouldn't have done this.