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turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:55 AM ET
Bryan Murray said yesterday, "I believe I have the best goalie on the market and it's not even close."

I guess his nephew Tim Murray believed him
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:55 AM ET
I don't question the talent, I just don't see the need to give up the 21st in this draft to get him. We are not going to the cup next season or the one after that, Murray needs to have some patience....(cue the Axel Rose whistling)
- LamontSanford

THIS!!
And, in a draft SO DEEP, to give up a 21st overall pick!
I can't, I just can't!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:56 AM ET
Can you point out which one of his losing record seasons with below average GAA and Save% was great?
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

The best of the two?
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:56 AM ET
Is that the final trade?

21st for Robin Don't know where I am and David I'm really a 4th liner?

No prospects involved?

This is a clear sign of TM falling in love with players he drafted. This is a bad, bad trade. Ottawa needed to move a goalie, everyone in the league knows that, so not only did they get a first they dumped salary in the process.

This is awful.

- Stripes77



This all the way


All I want is the Sabres to be good, respectable and make sound decisions. Its almost 8 years to the day we threw competitive hockey out the window in Buffalo. We've all sat through a lot of poop to get here. Is sound decision making too much to ask?
bjm1717
New York Islanders
Location: Sam Reinhart is the next Wayne Gretzky!
Joined: 08.18.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:57 AM ET
And, that kind of mentality is the reason that we don't have a cup for 40+ years!
Wait and see what happens?! With these kind of trades, another 40 years without a cup!

- Sabresfan88


Are you suggesting whats done is not done?

Do you have a time machine? How would reasoning after the fact change the thing that happened?

Im confused.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:57 AM ET
Bryan Murray said yesterday, "I believe I have the best goalie on the market and it's not even close."

I guess his nephew Tim Murray believed him

- turbo044

I hope his uncle at least kissed him before he F%^$ed him!
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jun 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
I hope his uncle at least kissed him before he F%^$ed him!
- Sabresfan88



You are off the rails.

Xanax helps.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
This all the way


All I want is the Sabres to be good, respectable and make sound decisions. Its almost 8 years to the day we threw competitive hockey out the window in Buffalo. We've all sat through a lot of poop to get here. Is sound decision making too much to ask?

- Buffalo--Sabres

Well, today, we are the laughing stock of entire NHL, AGAIN!!!!
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
Fair enough, but some on here are acting like we just traded Perreault for Bruce Shoebottom.
- grand-magus


I think it's just because the 21st pick seemed to have some real potential and they're underwhelmed about what we got.

I've done my deep breathing and I'm not as fuming as I was, but I really hope this wasn't a mistake like I think it was
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
I had no idea you could see the future. Tell me more, I want to make some money.
- TheSabresTaco


Taco, hello Taco, where are you, What you are feeling is a "state of shock" its ok, your head will clear, simply focus on how many fingers I have up, no wait, I'm sorry, I'm talking to Lehner, how many fingers do I have up? Yep he was only one off, Send our 1st Round Draft Pick that we "Suffered" for, do it early in the day, so we have no (Frank)ing Idea who will be sliding to 21 , destroy ANY chance of a team trading our 31 and 21 for a 14-17 pick or better, using it to trade for a GOOD player that a team can't afford, and then for the cherry, we are more than happy to take almost 6 Million of your cap problems so My beloved (Frank)ing Sens can "Magically" free themselves from Cap Hell,

P.S. Uncle , are we even now??? Pleases.......I've done what you wanted, please release me from my debt to you. I can't legally give you any more than that, its already embarassing.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:59 AM ET
Are you kidding me???
Off course they are trying to overvalue their player!!
And, a fool like GMTM fell for it!

- Sabresfan88


Get back to me in 3 years. Till then, you know as much as I do, which is little to nothing.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 26 @ 11:00 AM ET
Lehner is what I thought was the best option amongst the available goalies, but the price seems pretty steep.

The honeymoon might be over for Murray, Lehner better be good
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:00 AM ET
This all the way


All I want is the Sabres to be good, respectable and make sound decisions. Its almost 8 years to the day we threw competitive hockey out the window in Buffalo. We've all sat through a lot of poop to get here. Is sound decision making too much to ask?

- Buffalo--Sabres


I know what you're getting at there, but was the 2010 team not competetive? Yeah we didn't make the ECF but we won the division and were a pretty good team.

I just see that said a lot that the team hasn't been good since they left and I don't fully agree
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
Bryan Murray said yesterday, "I believe I have the best goalie on the market and it's not even close."

I guess his nephew Tim Murray believed him

- turbo044


What is also curious is that BM said earlier this week that he was going to have to trade a goalie for less than he was worth.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
you don't make this trade to tank in 2015-16
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
The best of the two?
- Cptmjl



Are we counting the 3-1 and 5-3 as winning seasons? I don't really consider it a "season" under 10 games. So do we really value that as a good season? Im sure we could of signed a ton of guys who are 1-0 in the NHL. The would of probably needed the 2nd overall though since they are undefeated!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
Taco, hello Taco, where are you, What you are feeling is a "state of shock" its ok, your head will clear, simply focus on how many fingers I have up, no wait, I'm sorry, I'm talking to Lehner, how many fingers do I have up? Yep he was only one off, Send our 1st Round Draft Pick that we "Suffered" for, do it early in the day, so we have no (Frank)ing Idea who will be sliding to 21 , destroy ANY chance of a team trading our 31 and 21 for a 14-17 pick or better, using it to trade for a GOOD player that a team can't afford, and then for the cherry, we are more than happy to take almost 6 Million of your cap problems so My beloved (Frank)ing Sens can "Magically" free themselves from Cap Hell,

P.S. Uncle , are we even now??? Pleases.......I've done what you wanted, please release me from my debt to you. I can't legally give you any more than that, its already embarassing.

- MEBSabresFAN

Tough trade to a division rival.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
Taco, hello Taco, where are you, What you are feeling is a "state of shock" its ok, your head will clear, simply focus on how many fingers I have up, no wait, I'm sorry, I'm talking to Lehner, how many fingers do I have up? Yep he was only one off, Send our 1st Round Draft Pick that we "Suffered" for, do it early in the day, so we have no (Frank)ing Idea who will be sliding to 21 , destroy ANY chance of a team trading our 31 and 21 for a 14-17 pick or better, using it to trade for a GOOD player that a team can't afford, and then for the cherry, we are more than happy to take almost 6 Million of your cap problems so My beloved (Frank)ing Sens can "Magically" free themselves from Cap Hell,

P.S. Uncle , are we even now??? Pleases.......I've done what you wanted, please release me from my debt to you. I can't legally give you any more than that, its already embarassing.

- MEBSabresFAN



How did we "suffer" for the 21st pick. It was not "ours", it was traded for.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
you don't make this trade to tank in 2015-16
- homiedclown



trading for a young un-proven goalie? this is exactly the kind of trade you make to tank in 2016
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
You are off the rails.

Xanax helps.

- grand-magus

No, just a die-hard Sabres fan, whom been through so much BS these past few years, to accumulate picks, and see it evaporate for literally nothing in return!
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
Lehner is what I thought was the best option amongst the available goalies, but the price seems pretty steep.

The honeymoon might be over for Murray, Lehner better be good

- mattmoulson


Lehner better be very good...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
Are we counting the 3-1 and 5-3 as winning seasons? I don't really consider it a "season" under 10 games. So do we really value that as a good season? Im sure we could of signed a ton of guys who are 1-0 in the NHL. The would of probably needed the 2nd overall though since they are undefeated!
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

I'm just hoping this doesn't inspire Ottawa to give the Rangers their 16th for Talbot.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
Feel free to pile on me for having optimism, but I'm not going to cry about what happened.

Scouts feel he's good, GM's feel he's good, and that's good enough for me to have faith that they know what the (frank) they're talking about.

It's a gamble and I hope to hell it works out. Let's reconvene in a few years about this.
metzeric
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.06.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl 2m2 minutes ago
The No. 21 picks from 2011-2014 drafts have combined for one NHL game. Tim Murray was looking for immediate help with Robin Lehner.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:03 AM ET
John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl 2m2 minutes ago
The No. 21 picks from 2011-2014 drafts have combined for one NHL game. Tim Murray was looking for immediate help with Robin Lehner.

- metzeric



Could have moved up using 21 and 31...
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