What? Kadri and Bozak suck. They are 2nd line C on TOR because the Leafs suck...on any decent team they are 3rd or 4th line C. Plus they are way overpaid...

I think you haven't seen O'Reilly play much, nor do you have any idea of the type of players Babcock likes on his teams. O'Reilly with Babcock would be a terrific fit. JVR + O'Reilly combination is the start to a very strong, and young, line.
- mventres

Last year Bozak and Kadri both had 49 and 50 pts without playing a full season. Those are decent numbers for any 2nd line center. Bozak makes 4.2 and Kadri made 2.7 and doesn't currently have a contract. Your either a troll or absolutely clueless. take your pick.

Last year Bozak and Kadri both had 49 and 50 pts without playing a full season. Those are decent numbers for any 2nd line center. Bozak makes 4.2 and Kadri made 2.7 and doesn't currently have a contract. Your either a troll or absolutely clueless. take your pick.
- HealthyScratch6

can i pick both?

Well, I think O'Reilly can be a very good fit at #1 C in Babcock's system in TOR. Outside of maybe Nylander, who is very unproven, the rest of the TOR centers are useless...
- mventres

If you think Kadri is useless you really have no clue about hockey!
Go look up Kadri's advanced stats, 5 on 5 stats and also look who he played with.
Kadri is actually an elite 2C...
But some people really have no clue what they are talking about on here!

Pens DO need to win now............

.........and how is Kadri overpaid at $2.5............

Perhaps, but they don't really have any C in their system outside of Nylander and aren't likely to get one at this draft either...but there are a number of good wingers at the top of the draft. Plus, O'Reilly is a much more complete player than Kessel and much more inline with what Babcock likes on his roster.
- mventres

One of Marner or Strome will be available at 4 so if we want a center we can have one.

can i pick both?
- the_eye

I don't see why not, reading some of his posts I would guess both are accurate

O'Reilly is looking for 7.5 million a year on the next contract.
Anyone who signs him for that crazy money is going to regret it quickly.
- StargateSG1

that's really pushing it, but...

he is one of the top 2c's in the game and still relatively young. with deals limited to 8 years, I'm not certain that $7.5m is going to put a team at a competitive disadvantage for a player of his caliber.

I'm more against the leafs paying market value in a trade to get him and then signing him to big money.

i'd be more open to seeing the leafs take a shot at him next year as a ufa.

that's really pushing it, but...

he is one of the top 2c's in the game and still relatively young. with deals limited to 8 years, I'm not certain that $7.5m is going to put a team at a competitive disadvantage for a player of his caliber.

I'm more against the leafs paying market value in a trade to get him and then signing him to big money.

i'd be more open to seeing the leafs take a shot at him next year as a ufa.
- Tumbleweed

Yep, let someone else give up the picks/prospects and hope he walks next year.

that's really pushing it, but...

he is one of the top 2c's in the game and still relatively young. with deals limited to 8 years, I'm not certain that $7.5m is going to put a team at a competitive disadvantage for a player of his caliber.

I'm more against the leafs paying market value in a trade to get him and then signing him to big money.

i'd be more open to seeing the leafs take a shot at him next year as a ufa.
- Tumbleweed

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...ice-but-to-trade-oreilly/

17 goals don't cost 7.5 million, I am certain of it.

that's really pushing it, but...

he is one of the top 2c's in the game and still relatively young. with deals limited to 8 years, I'm not certain that $7.5m is going to put a team at a competitive disadvantage for a player of his caliber.

I'm more against the leafs paying market value in a trade to get him and then signing him to big money.

i'd be more open to seeing the leafs take a shot at him next year as a ufa.
- Tumbleweed

He is one of the top 2c's in the league for sure and the fact that he's responsible defensively is a bonus but that's elite 1C money. I'd say he's worth 6.

Last year Bozak and Kadri both had 49 and 50 pts without playing a full season. Those are decent numbers for any 2nd line center. Bozak makes 4.2 and Kadri made 2.7 and doesn't currently have a contract. Your either a troll or absolutely clueless. take your pick.
- HealthyScratch6

Simmer down.

Simmer down.
- Dozzer

Noted

for one; I never specified which 1st round pick it would be
for two; Seems like everyone forgets Phil Kessel is an ELITE player on a bad team.
for three: Pitts has all off season to acquire new D men
- ThomasBreen91

then why have both the bruins and the maple leafs given up on him?

Simmer down.
- Dozzer

wrong guy

I wasn't basing him not panning out on the fact that he's on the block. I was basing it on the fact that he wasn't all that good for the Rangers. Hence the comparison to grabbing Kessel from the Leafs, everyone thought Yandle would shine with more talent around him. I'm not saying Kessel isn't a good player, but the mindset of "oh look what he manages with the Leafs, imagine what he could put up with a good team" is a dicey one.
- ehabs9

What are you talking about? If you take yandles performance with the Rangers and extend it 82 games, you end up with 9 goals and 38 assists. Good for 14th in the league, and ahead of guys like Keith, doughty, weber. And that is including the fact that he had to learn and new system and teammates. Keith yandles was phenomenal for the Rangers, and will be again next year, and someone (rightfully so) will sign him to big money next year.

wrong guy
- the_eye

I said simmer down

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/25/report-avs-feel-they-have-no-choice-but-to-trade-oreilly/

17 goals don't cost 7.5 million, I am certain of it.
- StargateSG1

he had 28 the year before and is only 24. If he can put up 25 next year,

$6M seems about right for him based on this list, but hard to argue he won't get $7M purely based on Stastny.

Jonathan Toews $10,500,000
Claude Giroux $8,275,000
Ryan Getzlaf $8,250,000
David Krejci $7,250,000
Paul Stastny $7,000,000
Patrice Bergeron $6,875,000
Nicklas Backstrom $6,700,000
Ryan O'Reilly $6,000,000
Joe Pavelski $6,000,000
Jordan Staal $6,000,000
Brandon Dubinsky $5,850,000
Travis Zajac $5,750,000
Dave Bolland $5,500,000
Mikhail Grabovski $5,000,000
Valtteri Filppula $5,000,000
Derick Brassard $5,000,000
Stephen Weiss $4,900,000
Tyler Bozak $4,200,000

then why have both the bruins and the maple leafs given up on him?
- black_francis

Bruins traded him because the leafs threatened to offer sheet not many teams give up on a player that scores 36 goals at age 21.

What are you talking about? If you take yandles performance with the Rangers and extend it 82 games, you end up with 9 goals and 38 assists. Good for 14th in the league, and ahead of guys like Keith, doughty, weber. And that is including the fact that he had to learn and new system and teammates. Keith yandles was phenomenal for the Rangers, and will be again next year, and someone (rightfully so) will sign him to big money next year.
- Dahlmanyotes

your math is wrong.

42 pts, not 47.

behind the guys you mentioned.

he would be 24th if you project it out over 82.


11 pts, 21 games as a ranger regular season.

Bruins traded him because the leafs threatened to offer sheet not many teams give up on a player that scores 36 goals at age 21.
- HealthyScratch6

Did we not lose 2 firsts and a second?.

Did we not lose 2 firsts and a second?.
- LeafsFan23

i think if they signed him at the salary they gave him it would have been 3 1sts back then

your math is wrong.

42 pts, not 47.

behind the guys you mentioned.

he would be 24th if you project it out over 82.


11 pts, 21 games as a ranger regular season.
- Isles_since_6

I included his playoff performance, but regardless it's a ridiculous accusation that yandle was a flop. Coming to a new system and putting up points that put you into the top 20 is amazing and he'll be even better next year.

I included his playoff performance, but regardless it's a ridiculous accusation that yandle was a flop. Coming to a new system and putting up points that put you into the top 20 is amazing and he'll be even better next year.
- Dahlmanyotes

If you do that, he projects to 45, still not 47. You're not very good at this.