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nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:34 PM ET
Comeau rejected a 2 year, $1M per year, offer from the Pens. Agent says they will test the market.
- errey12

No kidding that's a putrid offer.... Would like to see them go up to 1.5.-7
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 6:37 PM ET
Comeau rejected a 2 year, $1M per year, offer from the Pens. Agent says they will test the market.
- errey12

I'm ok with that
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 6:38 PM ET
This move would split my head in two. On the one hand I know that logically this is probably a horrendous move, but on the other hand I've always loved the (frank)ing Phil and I wouldn't be able to help myself from getting excited.
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 25 @ 6:39 PM ET
I disagree with this blog! Kessel beside Crosby makes the peguins cup contenders for the next 5 years..with frolik nothing changes!

You have Crosby Malkin Letang for the next 5 years of prime ! Add one of the best wingers in the nhl and you have the top scoring team in the East

Kessel for Kappenan,Harrington,dupuis,scuderi(sp),20161st

Dupuis is worth 4 m, I believe scuderi(sp) is worth 4m .. There's Kessels contract and you still get to keep pouliot and maata

- Canadianleaf


Now this is a more fair deal. Still don't know if I would, but you make a great point. Maybe if you took Bennett instead of Kap, then we could add a third
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 6:40 PM ET
I disagree with this blog! Kessel beside Crosby makes the peguins cup contenders for the next 5 years..with frolik nothing changes!

You have Crosby Malkin Letang for the next 5 years of prime ! Add one of the best wingers in the nhl and you have the top scoring team in the East

Kessel for Kappenan,Harrington,dupuis,scuderi(sp),20161st

Dupuis is worth 4 m, I believe scuderi(sp) is worth 4m .. There's Kessels contract and you still get to keep pouliot and maata

- Canadianleaf


No it makes them much worse off due to poaches assets and a weak D and continuous terrible bottom 6 with the amount of cap Kessel would need. They will be forced to continue to bargain dive via FA. It might give them 1 yr, but it will be followed with 8 terrible years.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:40 PM ET
But he wouldn't give you much production either
- kfinl170


Better than ruining your franchise worse by trading major assets for Kessel which will put your franchise back even further, if that is possible.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Jun 25 @ 6:41 PM ET
Kessel on the opposite side of Sid on the power play with letang and Malkin on the points...kessel could easily fix that god awful power play unit last few years. Could hit the 40-50 goal mark. Worth kapenen Harrington pick as long as they take scuds and spaling
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 25 @ 6:41 PM ET
Comeau rejected a 2 year, $1M per year, offer from the Pens. Agent says they will test the market.
- errey12


He'll make double that elsewhere
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 6:41 PM ET
Now this is a more fair deal. Still don't know if I would, but you make a great point.
- BourbonCounty

Replace kap with Bennett
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 25 @ 6:41 PM ET
No kidding that's a putrid offer.... Would like to see them go up to 1.5.-7
- nelson911


I'd be ok with that. No more however. I would like to see him back.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:41 PM ET
I disagree with this blog! Kessel beside Crosby makes the peguins cup contenders for the next 5 years..with frolik nothing changes!

You have Crosby Malkin Letang for the next 5 years of prime ! Add one of the best wingers in the nhl and you have the top scoring team in the East

Kessel for Kappenan,Harrington,dupuis,scuderi(sp),20161st

Dupuis is worth 4 m, I believe scuderi(sp) is worth 4m .. There's Kessels contract and you still get to keep pouliot and maata

- Canadianleaf


You are one delusional person if you think it makes us Cup contenders. Wessel doesn't have that type of pull and the assets we would be giving up would put us back even further, if that is possible.
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 25 @ 6:42 PM ET
I can't disagree. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried. I don't want Sharp either by the way.

I forget where I read it.... But this off-season will probably shape the rest of Sid and Geno's prime years. I don't think Ruth is going to nibble around the edges.

- madmike71


I said that the other day. This is the most important off-season of their careers without a doubt
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 6:44 PM ET
BRB. Gotta go hang out with Philly fans for the next two hours or so.
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 25 @ 6:44 PM ET
This move would split my head in two. On the one hand I know that logically this is probably a horrendous move, but on the other hand I've always loved the (frank)ing Phil and I wouldn't be able to help myself from getting excited.
- Victoro311


Yeah I'd be pretty pissed at first depending on the deal, but I could get very excited at the thought of Kessel on our team.
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 25 @ 6:47 PM ET
Replace kap with Bennett
- nh4442


I actually edited my post, I said we should do that and then add one of our free thirds
Canadianleaf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: T., ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 25 @ 6:49 PM ET
No it makes them much worse off due to poaches assets and a weak D and continuous terrible bottom 6 with the amount of cap Kessel would need. They will be forced to continue to bargain dive via FA. It might give them 1 yr, but it will be followed with 8 terrible years.
- sammy87

Your very wrong my friend... The cap will increase in the next 8 years.. Maybe only to 80 million... But.. Each year the cap rises.. That's another year that you gain money for other free agents.. You are set up for Kessels salary
goirish
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.08.2010

Jun 25 @ 6:50 PM ET
I disagree with this blog! Kessel beside Crosby makes the peguins cup contenders for the next 5 years..with frolik nothing changes!

You have Crosby Malkin Letang for the next 5 years of prime ! Add one of the best wingers in the nhl and you have the top scoring team in the East

Kessel for Kappenan,Harrington,dupuis,scuderi(sp),20161st

Dupuis is worth 4 m, I believe scuderi(sp) is worth 4m .. There's Kessels contract and you still get to keep pouliot and maata

- Canadianleaf


If he's so great why are the leafs trying to trade him. Pens needs to keep their young prospests and look elsewhere for upgrading their roster. Kessel is way overrated
Canadianleaf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: T., ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 25 @ 6:52 PM ET
You are one delusional person if you think it makes us Cup contenders. Wessel doesn't have that type of pull and the assets we would be giving up would put us back even further, if that is possible.
- Oneonta Penguin

I think you may be delusional..Kessel is a elite scorer with Bozak at center .. Crosby carried Kunitz so well that he made team canada!! I believe the penguins power play was pretty good last year.. If you get Kessel I will bet anyone number one in the NHL
Canadianleaf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: T., ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 25 @ 6:55 PM ET
If he's so great why are the leafs trying to trade him. Pens needs to keep their young prospests and look elsewhere for upgrading their roster. Kessel is way overrated
- goirish

If the leafs had a Crosby and Malkin at center.. Secondary scoring from Kunitz and defenceman like Letang maata pouliot and a nhl #1 in fleury we wouldn't be trading him.. That's why your name is in the rumor mill.. Because your not in a rebuild. You have all stars with one Large hole... A top scoring winger to play with the best player in the world
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
If he's so great why are the leafs trying to trade him. Pens needs to keep their young prospests and look elsewhere for upgrading their roster. Kessel is way overrated
- goirish


Where were you yesterday. OP was knocking Notre Dame. I needed back up
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
I think you may be delusional..Kessel is a elite scorer with Bozak at center .. Crosby carried Kunitz so well that he made team canada!! I believe the penguins power play was pretty good last year.. If you get Kessel I will bet anyone number one in the NHL
- Canadianleaf



Have you watched one game of the Pens and know where our problems are? Nope. Delusional people think Kessel make us a Cup contender. Because non delusional people know we are going to have to give up one or two pieces we can ill afford to give up. You give up a Maatta or Pouliot in this deal, our defense looks like your's, which is AHL level. Makes zero sense champ.

It would put our franchise back a decade. Adding this clown at 8 million is utterly ridiculous. 9+ for Malkin, 8.7 for Crosby, 7.3 for Letang and 8 for dough boy means close to 50% of the cap is on four players. Puts us in more problems. Not hard to figure out.
goirish
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.08.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:03 PM ET
Where were you yesterday. OP was knocking Notre Dame. I needed back up
- Victoro311

Yesterday was a beautiful day in Pittsburgh. I was outside enjoying the weather and trying to get some things done around the house.
bmoney411
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I don't care about being "better" . I care about building a cup contender." -Iggysbff, ON
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 7:03 PM ET
Pouliot or Maatta would almost certainly have to be moved for other young studs for a trade to be fair.

However, if Toronto (or whatever team) also takes the bloated contracts of Scuderi and Sutter, it *might* be worth it. The net exchange would essentially make a Kessel a $1 million player this year, a $4 million player next year, and then continue being $8 million for the rest of his contract.

Maatta might be worth two super cheap years of Kessel in that case. After all Maatta is about to get expensive himself next year.

But if we're talking one of those dmen, a 1st rounder, Sutter, and Scuderi, then i'm probably not a fan. but if it's just Maatta, sutter, and scuderi, then it might be something to consider.

- poopmouth

Kessel's not worth a low 1st rounder, 2 salary dumps and a good young prospect. Do people listen to themselves
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 7:05 PM ET
The Avs actually traded for Soderberg's rights? They must be planning to throw 5 + mil at him. Idiots and disappointing for us.

Also makes me think there may be a ROR/Kessel trade on the horizon.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 25 @ 7:06 PM ET
Tikhonov was being reported by a different Russian paper to be coming here. Not sure if it is true though it seems to be just chatter and no one is posting links to the russian paper.

As for the Comeau thing does anyone have a link or tweet that confirms this information?
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