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drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 26 @ 8:43 AM ET
I just talked to him about it and he said by light he means they haven't even gotten an offer for a pick in the first two rounds. 3rd round draft pick... thats bad.
- usethe1-2-2


I thought maybe he could land a 2nd round pick. Maybe add a 2016 3rd rounder to make him a little more appealing
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 26 @ 8:43 AM ET
I mentioned him over here because I think he'd be perfect on the Pens. Seems to be exactly what you guys need a little more of.
- Cptmjl


Agreed. He should also come in at around the same price as Sutter. So it's like we upgrade 3c for free, cap hit wise, and gain whatever we get for Sutter. Win-win.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:44 AM ET
Key word is WEAK.
- madmike71



Weak based on what? Sutter's perceived value, real value, the average trade value made regarding the Penguins?

The first and third option as a basis would make those offers sound a tad fair >_>
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:45 AM ET
It hasn't in my mind, and shouldnt in Pens' fans minds... but, I am thinking of it in other GM's views...

Maatta and Pouliot both seem to be the real deal, one has had two big injuries... Would you trade Kessel on a possible big risk? Maatta's value is and should be high, but at least for this next year, he is a risk.

- Guile


Did anyone ever say what the injury to Pouliott was at the end of the season? All I remember was upper body and have not heard anything else.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:47 AM ET
Did anyone ever say what the injury to Pouliott was at the end of the season? All I remember was upper body and have not heard anything else.
- Thunderbolt



Last update I can find is this...

Derrick Pouliot said he will go back to the minors now that the Penguins have been eliminated.
Pouliot didn't suit up in the playoffs because he was dealing with an upper body injury. When he's ready to return to action, he will help Wilkes Barre Scranton Penguins in their AHL playoff run.
Source: Dave Molinari on Twitter Apr 26 - 11:11 AM


So, seems like it wasn't a severe one if he planned on going to the AHL playoffs.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 26 @ 8:49 AM ET
Weak based on what? Sutter's perceived value, real value, the average trade value made regarding the Penguins?

The first and third option as a basis would make those offers sound a tad fair >_>

- Guile


He's not strong. He get's pushed of the puck easier than Brittle Beau. Absolutely never wins a battle......basically the anti-Staal.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 26 @ 8:49 AM ET
Soderberg with a 4.75 mil/5 year deal
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:50 AM ET
Well don't get me wrong Kessel is a good player but between his contract/cap hit he becomes difficult to absorb. You're hurting your depth or I should say potential depth by having that salary. You only have so much left to shore up the rest of the team. We all know how awesome it'd be to see Kessel on a line with Crosby but the overall effect on the team might not be so great. As far as Maatta goes there's no way I'd want him traded if I were a Pens fan. Kid has a ton of potential.
- Cptmjl

I'm with you 100%. it doesn't make sense anyway you slice it.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:51 AM ET
I thought maybe he could land a 2nd round pick. Maybe add a 2016 3rd rounder to make him a little more appealing
- drummer829

Mike said that was the offers they recieved so far. Things could heat up. Dreger talking now like St.Louis wants Sutter for Oshie... Not sure what that would accomplish.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:52 AM ET
Mike said that was the offers they recieved so far. Things could heat up. Dreger talking now like St.Louis wants Sutter for Oshie... Not sure what that would accomplish.
- usethe1-2-2



I believe that would give many of us full on internet orgasms if that trade occured.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:53 AM ET
Last update I can find is this...



So, seems like it wasn't a severe one if he planned on going to the AHL playoffs.

- Guile


Thanks, I looked at the WBS page and he played in six games, so one would assume he was 100% risk free as I doubt the organization would risk him furthering his injury.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 26 @ 8:54 AM ET
Mike said that was the offers they recieved so far. Things could heat up. Dreger talking now like St.Louis wants Sutter for Oshie... Not sure what that would accomplish.
- usethe1-2-2


Sutter for oshie? If sutter was the centerpiece in an Oshie deal, JR better not (frank) that up
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:57 AM ET
Sutter for oshie? If sutter was the centerpiece in an Oshie deal, JR better not (frank) that up
- drummer829




I think I can feel Bartley having a Sutter hating orgy right now...
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:58 AM ET
Mike said that was the offers they recieved so far. Things could heat up. Dreger talking now like St.Louis wants Sutter for Oshie... Not sure what that would accomplish.
- usethe1-2-2


No to Oshie. He's more of a playmaker than scorer.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:58 AM ET
I believe that would give many of us full on internet orgasms if that trade occured.
- Guile

Soiled pants everywhere.

But seriously, St.Louis wouldn't be that dumb.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 26 @ 8:58 AM ET
So much for Soderberg.
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jun 26 @ 9:00 AM ET
Soderberg with a 4.75 mil/5 year deal
- drummer829


Thank god. Now we can finally stop talking about signing an average player. Next.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 26 @ 9:00 AM ET
So much for Soderberg.
- Dcoms

For that price??? That is insane.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 26 @ 9:01 AM ET
No to Oshie. He's more of a playmaker than scorer.
- joescullz

While true, moving Sutter is needed. Even if Oshie plays third line you get rid of Sutter for a trade piece later.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:07 AM ET
For that price??? That is insane.
- usethe1-2-2


AV's have $$ to burn, plus it looks like ROR is on the move now.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:10 AM ET
Interesting set of tweets from @JB_Hockeytalk

Maybe we see Oshie to PIT with a young prospect like Rattie and Brandon Sutter going the other way. (Via @DarrenDreger)

But I keep hearing, if all fails, Pittsburgh and St. Louis might do something' to shake things up for both clubs. (Via @DarrenDreger)

I think there's a strong appetite to change things up a little bit. It could be a pretty significant trade. @DarrenDreger on #Pens
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:13 AM ET
Interesting set of tweets from @JB_Hockeytalk

Maybe we see Oshie to PIT with a young prospect like Rattie and Brandon Sutter going the other way. (Via @DarrenDreger)

But I keep hearing, if all fails, Pittsburgh and St. Louis might do something' to shake things up for both clubs. (Via @DarrenDreger)

I think there's a strong appetite to change things up a little bit. It could be a pretty significant trade. @DarrenDreger on #Pens

- cap1681


Malkin...
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:14 AM ET
Interesting set of tweets from @JB_Hockeytalk

Maybe we see Oshie to PIT with a young prospect like Rattie and Brandon Sutter going the other way. (Via @DarrenDreger)


- cap1681




I would be floored if St. Louis did that. That would be robbery for the Pens.

I do see St. Louis changing things up though.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:14 AM ET
Malkin...
- sammy87


Crosby...
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 26 @ 9:18 AM ET
Crosby...
- drummer829

Farnham...
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