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MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 7:53 PM ET
I do seriously wish we had Eichel and Bennet as our 1 & 2 C's. I'll take Reinhart, but would have loved Bennetts Fire passion and get'er done attitude.
- IonSabres



Gotta say I agree. Loved the intangibles Bennett brought. I just prefer his style of play over reinhart. I don't think we made a mistake taking reinhart but if I was making the pick I would have had a hard time passing on Bennett
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 23 @ 7:53 PM ET
So the Sens want to move Lehner who is lucky can still spell his name and on top of that, they want to move out a crap contract along with Lehner ? good luck with that. I hope Murray stays clear of Lehner.
- SABRES 89



right on.
twinks20
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 02.18.2008

Jun 23 @ 7:54 PM ET
It means our future looks like this:
Eichel 1C, Reinhart 2C, O'reilly 3C at 7million and a pain in the butt, and Girgensons (a.k.a Buffalo's original version of Ryan O'reilly) left playing wing where he won't be as effective.

- sskkoo1

I would say it is Eichel Reinhart Girgensons and O'reilly on the wing. Most of his games the last two years he has played wing
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 7:55 PM ET
I believe Eichel will out play ROR , but just my opinion.

KANE - Eichel - Ennis
Moulson - ROR - FA/Trade
Foligno - Reinhart - Gionta
Des- Larson - ????

- MEBSabresFAN


I meant for this season as per Bylsma, he wants to shield Eichel and Reinhart early...let them grow into 1c and 2c respectively. You won't see Eichel in 1c for a good portion of the year.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 23 @ 7:55 PM ET
I'm not going to get into this again...

NHL scout, with Stanley Cup rings, said to me "Best case scenario for Reinhart is what ROR is now"

I know, I know.....one person's opinion but one with a solid track record.

Just because ROR doesn't get a lot of PIMS doesn't mean he doesn't play with an edge.....IE Girgensons.

And no, I've never heard Sam being compared to Bergeron.

- Homer


Ryan has a lot of +'s, possession numbers and 5 on 5 points per 60 minutes are both excellent but physicality isn't one of them. He had 38 hits last year and 22 in 2013 and 2014. with his history I don't see him passing up a chance to ufa after next year either. Only way I trade a player like Sam for him is in July if can negotiate an extension with him. One and done and watch Sam turn into a Seguin would be too much to handle!!
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 23 @ 7:55 PM ET
So I guess pending UFA's can start talking to teams on Thursday, right?
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 23 @ 7:56 PM ET
I believe Eichel will out play ROR , but just my opinion.

KANE - Eichel - Ennis
Moulson - ROR - FA/Trade
Foligno - Reinhart - Gionta
Des- Larson - ????

- MEBSabresFAN


You're missing Girgensons
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 23 @ 7:59 PM ET
I would say it is Eichel Reinhart Girgensons and O'reilly on the wing. Most of his games the last two years he has played wing
- twinks20

Left wing though. We need to acquire at least one proven RW. I'm sick of shifting these players from their natural postions.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 8:00 PM ET
I like ROR but he's not very physical and his only + IMO is his age and he has skill. I don't hink he will get 35 goals but that's just my opinion.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 23 @ 8:00 PM ET
So the Sens want to move Lehner who is lucky can still spell his name and on top of that, they want to move out a crap contract along with Lehner ? good luck with that. I hope Murray stays clear of Lehner.
- SABRES 89


If he CAN still spell his name I don't mind Lehner, adding a bad contract like Greening likely makes the price even more reasonable and Greening only has 2 years left where do I sign
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 23 @ 8:00 PM ET
I would say it is Eichel Reinhart Girgensons and O'reilly on the wing. Most of his games the last two years he has played wing
- twinks20


Okay, if he has played wing for the majority of the past couple seasons than is playing in Colorado's top 6 with Landi, McKinn, Duch, and who else? P.A.? So I would suspect that he would be counted on as being a finisher to put the puck in the net for Colorado's kick ass centers. RoR hasn't done that, a couple seasons in the high-teens and I think he had a season where he scored 28.

When we get to the point where Eichel and Reinhart are really cooking I want their wingmen to each score north of 30 every season. Kind of like how pommer and vanenk and staff were when we had Drury and Bri.
SABRES 89
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Jun 23 @ 8:01 PM ET
Left wing though. We need to acquire at least one proven RW. I'm sick of shifting these players from their natural postions.
- Mentalorgasm5

Sounds like that's Kessel, but the Leafs are holding teams hostage.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 23 @ 8:01 PM ET
I like ROR but he's not very physical and his only + IMO is his age and he has skill. I don't hink he will get 35 goals but that's just my opinion.
- SABRES 89


Serious question... Can ROR be Drury?
SABRES 89
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Jun 23 @ 8:02 PM ET
If he CAN still spell his name I don't mind Lehner, adding a bad contract like Greening likely makes the price even more reasonable and Greening only has 2 years left where do I sign
- mattmoulson

horrible deal to be stuck with Greening, some want Hodgson gone and now we are talking about taking on Greening ? not a chance.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 23 @ 8:03 PM ET
Sounds like that's Kessel, but the Leafs are holding teams hostage.
- SABRES 89

Would you take Vrbata for the 21st or 31st? Your going to have to get to the cap floor somehow. I doubt you want to pay big bucks for a FA that won't be as good.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 23 @ 8:04 PM ET
horrible deal to be stuck with Greening, some want Hodgson gone and now we are talking about taking on Greening ? not a chance.
- SABRES 89


The cap won't be a problem for the next two years, if Murray wants Lehner and picking up Greening makes the cost more palatable it seems like a pretty good idea
SABRES 89
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Jun 23 @ 8:04 PM ET
Serious question... Can ROR be Drury?
- mattmoulson

Maybe that's a tall order.
SABRES 89
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Jun 23 @ 8:04 PM ET
The cap won't be a problem for the next two years, if Murray wants Lehner and picking up Greening makes the cost more palatable it seems like a pretty good idea
- mattmoulson

Not in my book, Greening is horrible and we don't another boat anchor.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 23 @ 8:06 PM ET
Sounds like that's Kessel, but the Leafs are holding teams hostage.
- SABRES 89


I think their price will come down at the draft. There is no way he can be on their opening night roster at this point. They put themselves in a bad spot negotiation wise with other teams.

For the record I know you hate the idea of him but I would much rather have Kessel than ROR. From what you've said Murray doesn't agree but that's fine. I just want a winning team.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 23 @ 8:06 PM ET
Not in my book, Greening is horrible and we don't another boat anchor.
- SABRES 89


Then you can waive him and send him to Rochester. Like the Regehr/ Kotalik deal
Stripes77
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Jun 23 @ 8:07 PM ET
Maybe that's a tall order.
- SABRES 89


I liked Drury here but he is one of the most overrated players. He was not worth anywhere near what the Rangers paid him. Even if he stayed healthy.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 23 @ 8:07 PM ET
Sounds like that's Kessel, but the Leafs are holding teams hostage.
- SABRES 89

I wouldn't think he would come here. There safest bet would be brining in a veteran RW, even if it is overpaying for Justin Williams, and then using pick 21 and a prospect for a a prospect more along their development such as Mantha or Rychel.

I really don't want to see them move Pysyk, Ristolainen, Zadorov (my favorite of the group) or McCabe. Too solid of a foundation to start breaking apart.
SABRES 89
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Jun 23 @ 8:08 PM ET
I think their price will come down at the draft. There is no way he can be on their opening night roster at this point. They put themselves in a bad spot negotiation wise with other teams.

For the record I know you hate the idea of him but I would much rather have Kessel than ROR. From what you've said Murray doesn't agree but that's fine. I just want a winning team.

- Stripes77

I'll take Kessel just don't like the years left on his deal but, i'll take him.
SABRES 89
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Jun 23 @ 8:09 PM ET
I liked Drury here but he is one of the most overrated players. He was not worth anywhere near what the Rangers paid him. Even if he stayed healthy.
- Stripes77

Sabres wanted him, he didn't want to be here.

Briere wanted to be here, Sabres didn't want him.
SABRES 89
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Jun 23 @ 8:10 PM ET
I wouldn't think he would come here. There safest bet would be brining in a veteran RW, even if it is overpaying for Justin Williams, and then using pick 21 and a prospect for a a prospect more along their development such as Mantha or Rychel.

I really don't want to see them move Pysyk, Ristolainen, Zadorov (my favorite of the group) or McCabe. Too solid of a foundation to start breaking apart.

- Mentalorgasm5

Was just reading the Yotes will move the 3rd pick for the right price.
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