For the best captain and leader in any team sport, its a bargain. You can't argue with success. If Stevie Y was still playing he would be getting comparable $ and you would not complain about it.
- HawkfaninBC

Not in the Cap world.
Lidstrom's highest season was 10 million salary, and Toews and Kane aren't him,
especially in Salary Cap world

10.5 million each?
Hell no!
That's no home town discount, that's cashing in big time.
- StargateSG1

So you don't want to win any more Cups

So you don't want to win any more Cups
- HawkfaninBC

Hawks haven't either with those Cap hits.
Penguins ring any bells?
Top heavy doesn't work.

Not in the Cap world.
Lidstrom's highest season was 10 million salary, and Toews and Kane aren't him,
especially in Salary Cap world
- StargateSG1

Agree to disagree with you. IMO if Stevie Y was in his prime now and the Wings won 3 Cups in 6 years , he would get at least the same money. I really enjoyed watching Lidstrom play , one of the best ever, I am a hockey fan and can admit to greatness when I see it. Doesn't matter which team that greatness is on.

Agree to disagree with you. IMO if Stevie Y was in his prime now and the Wings won 3 Cups in 6 years , he would get at least the same money. I really enjoyed watching Lidstrom play , one of the best ever, I am a hockey fan and can admit to greatness when I see it. Doesn't matter which team that greatness is on.
- HawkfaninBC

Honestly hard to compare. T and K.. Not bad at all.
Keith, on the other hand, if he came up for the new contract,
would break the bank in the modern NHL.

For the best captain and leader in any team sport, its a bargain. You can't argue with success. If Stevie Y was still playing he would be getting comparable $ and you would not complain about it.
- HawkfaninBC

TBH I heard Toews got a C- in public speaking.

Honestly hard to compare. T and K.. Not bad at all.
Keith, on the other hand, if he came up for the new contract,
would break the bank in the modern NHL.
- StargateSG1

You're right there. D men like him are way more valuable than forwards in todays NHL. To win you need a great team with solid depth but especially an excellent top 4 D.

You're right there. D men like him are way more valuable than forwards in todays NHL. To win you need a great team with solid depth but especially an excellent top 4 D.
- HawkfaninBC

Yeah, that top four D is arguably the best in the last 5 years.

You're right there. D men like him are way more valuable than forwards in todays NHL. To win you need a great team with solid depth but especially an excellent top 4 D.
- HawkfaninBC

It seems that we know our hockey.
D like him are the building blocks of the Stanley Cup champions.

For the best captain and leader in any team sport, its a bargain. You can't argue with success. If Stevie Y was still playing he would be getting comparable $ and you would not complain about it.
- HawkfaninBC

So what happens when Saad gets offer sheeted and you guys can't match?

It seems that we know our hockey.
D like him are the building blocks of the Stanley Cup champions.
- StargateSG1

Better than most my "winged" friend

So what happens when Saad gets offer sheeted and you guys can't match?
- Ihatebrianburke

We take the picks and run....I doubt it happens though.

Better than most my "winged" friend
- HawkfaninBC

Yeah those other wings fans are idiots.

So what happens when Saad gets offer sheeted and you guys can't match?
- Ihatebrianburke

None of the modern GMs have the jewels to do it anyway.

Better than most my "winged" friend
- HawkfaninBC

Oy Vey!

None of the modern GMs have the jewels to do it anyway.
- StargateSG1

Agree and what is Saad really worth, he's good but not great. I wouldn't give him any more than 4.5 to 5 per year tops. I can't see anyone giving him 7 mil , and if they did I would walk.

Agree and what is Saad really worth, he's good but not great. I wouldn't give him any more than 4.5 to 5 per year tops. I can't see anyone giving him 7 mil , and if they did I would walk.
- HawkfaninBC

Correct
And if there is a desperate GM out there willing to go stupid and sign him for 7 mil, so be it.
You collect the draft picks.
I am fairly certain that after the Weber offer sheet, which didn't work, it's no use

Agree and what is Saad really worth, he's good but not great. I wouldn't give him any more than 4.5 to 5 per year tops. I can't see anyone giving him 7 mil , and if they did I would walk.
- HawkfaninBC

You guys can't really afford 5. I don't think anyone would give him 7

You guys can't really afford 5. I don't think anyone would give him 7
- Ihatebrianburke

Maybe, but again it depends on trades over the next while. What about the Oil though!
I am very optimistic that they will take a big step next season. Just need to be creative and get a couple of good D men and a goalie. I think you will see more F/A's willing to consider them because of McDavid and the young talent they have. PC needs to have the balls to trade Yak and maybe Ebs if the return is right.

Maybe, but again it depends on trades over the next while. What about the Oil though!
I am very optimistic that they will take a big step next season. Just need to be creative and get a couple of good D men and a goalie. I think you will see more F/A's willing to consider them because of McDavid and the young talent they have. PC needs to have the balls to trade Yak and maybe Ebs if the return is right.
- HawkfaninBC

The only way I see either getting traded is for a legit top pair dman but I don't see anyone wanting to trade one

Rather than fix the 3 point system, they dive deeper into circus play.

So what happens when Saad gets offer sheeted and you guys can't match?
- Ihatebrianburke

It won't happen so its a moot point. And with the cap now set at $71.4M, Bowman has plenty of options out there, regardless of what various talking heads outside of ChiTown want to believe.

Worry about the Oil and see if they can crack the 70-pt mark this season.

Rather than fix the 3 point system, they dive deeper into circus play.
- Beatle_john

3 point system is fine. 3 on 3 ot does exactly what we all want. Create a LOT less shootouts

It won't happen so its a moot point. And with the cap now set at $71.4M, Bowman has plenty of options out there, regardless of what various talking heads outside of ChiTown want to believe.

Worry about the Oil and see if they can crack the 70-pt mark this season.
- blackhawk24

Wow good one. So high and mighty when you were the skid mark of the league not that long ago. I'm sure you still went to and watched games of the Hawks at that point and weren't a fair weather fan that didn't pay attention to them at the time like the rest of your fanbase though. Funny thing, here we still sell out every game as a last place team. I hope San Jose offer sheets you guys again.

3 point system is fine. 3 on 3 ot does exactly what we all want. Create a LOT less shootouts
- TokenBlack

That just means there's 2 less players to score a goal