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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:35 AM ET
I think they'd offer incentives rather than restrictions though
- PhillySportsGuy


I don't agree with restrictions either, but I can understand the point of view that this kind of talent-drain is bad for the long-term sustainability of hockey in Russia.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 22 @ 11:37 AM ET
Luukko was signed to an AHL tryout contract late last season. It's possible he could be re-signed to play for Reading in the ECHL and provide some added AHL depth but he is not an NHL entry-level candidate.

They liked Alt quite a bit heading into the 2014-15 season. Unfortunately, he lost most of the season to shoulder and wrist injuries and was lucky to escape without a concussion after hitting his head on the boards and having to leave a latter-season game. So, basically, it was a lost season for him. Still a prospect for the third pairing but needs more AHL time.

- bmeltzer

thanks Bill.

I would like to see Alt pan out. need those cheap solid 3rd pairing guys. just an under the radar guy to root for. law of averages tells you the top 4 d guys will not all pan out.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 22 @ 11:38 AM ET
I don't agree with restrictions either, but I can understand the point of view that this kind of talent-drain is bad for the long-term sustainability of hockey in Russia.
- Tomahawk


History has shown that putting restrictions on players just makes things worse. The only way to keep talent is to offer better incentives than the alternatives.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
I don't agree with restrictions either, but I can understand the point of view that this kind of talent-drain is bad for the long-term sustainability of hockey in Russia.
- Tomahawk


Before instituting restrictions, they could trying having their top professional league honor salaries. Might help a bit.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:42 AM ET
History has shown that putting restrictions on players just makes things worse. The only way to keep talent is to offer better incentives than the alternatives.
- PhillySportsGuy


It's a bit of a chicken egg thing tho... a strong KHL that's on par w/ the NHL (the best incentive) can't happen under present conditions... they need more of their best kids to stay, or they'll always just be an NHL feeder.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:44 AM ET
It's a bit of a chicken egg thing tho... a strong KHL that's on par w/ the NHL (the best incentive) can't happen under present conditions... they need more of their best kids to stay, or they'll always just be an NHL feeder.
- Tomahawk

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 22 @ 11:46 AM ET
It's a bit of a chicken egg thing tho... a strong KHL that's on par w/ the NHL (the best incentive) can't happen under present conditions... they need more of their best kids to stay, or they'll always just be an NHL feeder.
- Tomahawk


If you build it, they will come

Kinda funny how the governments have had such an impact on the KHL
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:47 AM ET
I don't agree with restrictions either, but I can understand the point of view that this kind of talent-drain is bad for the long-term sustainability of hockey in Russia.
- Tomahawk


Aren't there restrictions in place now (or, at least proposals) for drafting foreign goaltenders in the CHL?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:48 AM ET
Aren't there restrictions in place now (or, at least proposals) for drafting foreign goaltenders in the CHL?
- johndewar

I think you're right, they're dumb too
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:54 AM ET
Aren't there restrictions in place now (or, at least proposals) for drafting foreign goaltenders in the CHL?
- johndewar


Yeah.
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:04 PM ET
This "Culture change" crap talk, usually comes from people who dont have a clue as to what the problem is
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:09 PM ET
The anticipation leading up to this draft is literally killing me. Is a trade or two this week to hold us over so much to ask for?

It could be 2 Western Conference teams for all I care. I MISS HAWK-KEY
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:17 PM ET
The anticipation leading up to this draft is literally killing me. Is a trade or two this week to hold us over so much to ask for?

It could be 2 Western Conference teams for all I care. I MISS HAWK-KEY

- mochoson



After the suspense is over and the selections made, then it will require more waiting most likely. Players drafted could be years away from playing for the Flyers. That's why I'm not that hyped up about it personally.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:18 PM ET
The anticipation leading up to this draft is literally killing me. Is a trade or two this week to hold us over so much to ask for?

It could be 2 Western Conference teams for all I care. I MISS HAWK-KEY

- mochoson


Everyone is out enjoying the summer weather, and here I am, waiting for the nhl draft...
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:20 PM ET
After the suspense is over and the selections made, then it will require more waiting most likely. Players drafted could be years away from playing for the Flyers. That's why I'm not that hyped up about it personally.
- MJL


I'm salivating at the thought of umberger, vinny, grossman, luke, and Rinaldo donning the Orange and black again. I've got no time for this nonsense either
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:21 PM ET
After the suspense is over and the selections made, then it will require more waiting most likely. Players drafted could be years away from playing for the Flyers. That's why I'm not that hyped up about it personally.
- MJL


I want to know who the Flyers pick and if they trade anyone, etc.

But, I'm not going to go out of my way to watch it.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:21 PM ET
Everyone is out enjoying the summer weather, and here I am, waiting for the nhl draft...
- benjichronic


It's my favorite hockey day of the year.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 12:22 PM ET
I'm salivating at the thought of umberger, vinny, grossman, luke, and Rinaldo donning the Orange and black again. I've got no time for this nonsense either
- Just5

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 22 @ 12:23 PM ET
I want to know who the Flyers pick and if they trade anyone, etc.

But, I'm not going to go out of my way to watch it.

- johndewar

The rebuild will start on draft night. Say goodbye to your favorite players
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 22 @ 12:24 PM ET
It's my favorite hockey day of the year.
- Tomahawk


The timing this year is pretty great. Watch round 1 on Friday night, then rounds 2-4 on Saturday morning. By around noon I'll probably have to leave the house, but the Flyers will have picked 7 times by then.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:25 PM ET
I want to know who the Flyers pick and if they trade anyone, etc.

But, I'm not going to go out of my way to watch it.

- johndewar



I want to know also, but October is still months away. I'm more interested in what moves Hextall will make this off season.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jun 22 @ 12:25 PM ET
It's my favorite hockey day of the year.
- Tomahawk


This is the draft I've been most excited for in recent years... so yeah I'm getting a tad bit impatient lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:26 PM ET
I'm salivating at the thought of umberger, vinny, grossman, luke, and Rinaldo donning the Orange and black again. I've got no time for this nonsense either
- Just5


I personally love watching every second of Flyers hockey, win lose or draw.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:26 PM ET
The timing this year is pretty great. Watch round 1 on Friday night, then rounds 2-4 on Saturday morning. By around noon I'll probably have to leave the house, but the Flyers will have picked 7 times by then.
- Feanor


mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:29 PM ET
So we can take on all these Russian kids who want to come here and take multi million dollar jobs but a dozen Mexican kids with the flu who want to weed your flower bed for $3 an hour is an issue?

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