Well STL has a stock of good forwards and Tarensenko will be getting a major deal, Schwartz too in the near future. They need young Dmen and they could view BB as a potential stop gap of a cheap roster spot while the other guys get their cash making Oshie expendable.
- sammy87

They would want guys with more experience than Dumo/Harrington. They have a top six winger and trading him for 6/7 Dman with little pro experience and a question in Bennett doesn't seem smart for them to do. You probably would be sending Pouliot as part of a package along with another good piece.

Same, but I don't think the Blues view Dumo as a "Top" prospect.

I think they may want someone that would be able to play top pair minutes in the future and Dumo isn't that.
- Conse

Yes I was thinking Pouliot or Harrington

Pass on both
- BourbonCounty

This, but double pass on Kessel.

I'd like Oshie a lot. But no idea how the Pens can get him without Maatta/Pouliot being added. Unless STL blows up their roster, they have no use for another center like Sutter.
- jfkst1

I think Sutter and a second could get us Oshie.

Yes I was thinking Pouliot or Harrington
- sycsam

You can take Harrington and Bennett for Oshie... Hell, I'll throw in a 2016 3rd rounder too.

They would want guys with more experience than Dumo/Harrington. They have a top six winger and trading him for 6/7 Dman with little pro experience and a question in Bennett doesn't seem smart for them to do. You probably would be sending Pouliot as part of a package along with another good piece.
- Oneonta Penguin

We will even be so kind to give you all Steve Ott to replace Lappy

I think Sutter and a second could get us Oshie.
- joescullz

Maybe if they make some major roster moves. Right now they have Backes, Statsny, Berglund, and Lehtera that can and have played top 9 center.

You can take Harrington and Bennett for Oshie... Hell, I'll throw in a 2016 3rd rounder too.
- Guile

Harrington or Pouliot is a start

the deal can be worked out

We need a guy to play now

So if harrington is not ready we will have to pass

Maybe if they make some major roster moves. Right now they have Backes, Statsny, Berglund, and Lehtera that can and have played top 9 center.
- jfkst1

NOt to mention Steen and some prospects in the wings

Harrington or Pouliot is a start

the deal can be worked out

We need a guy to play now

So if harrington is not ready we will have to pass
- sycsam

Not only is Harrington not likely ready, his ceiling is considered significantly lower than Pouliot's.

I think Sutter and a second could get us Oshie.
- joescullz

I don't ... not even close. They have no need for Sutter for starters.

Are his numbers down because of the emergence of Taresenko and Schwartz and losing ice time and PP?
- sammy87

His numbers aren't really down. He's consistently been a 20g 50pt guy. With his puck skills you'd expect higher numbers but he has seemed to be maxed out offensively. But he's physical for his size and defensively responsible.

Harrington or Pouliot is a start

the deal can be worked out

We need a guy to play now

So if harrington is not ready we will have to pass
- sycsam

Harrington is Definitely not ready. I think other teams may be able to put up a nice package for Oshie. We just can't put up something fair without giving up maatta or pouliot, so it's not worth.

Harrington is Definitely not ready. I think other teams may be able to put up a nice package for Oshie. We just can't put up something fair without giving up maatta or pouliot, so it's not worth.
- Conse

We will give you Gunnar and Ott with Oshie

I have proposed this before but havent received a lot of feedback.

What about Kessel and some retained cash for Letang?

Similar age, and locked up until same season.

Kessel is a little overpaid, but they are similarly talented players.

I'd say that since they are similarly talented, then saying "hey, toronto. it'd be fair for you to retain at least 0.75 so that the salaries cancel since Kessel is currently overpaid and letang isn't."

It doesn't really help Toronto's rebuild since it's just exchanging star for star instead of exchanging a star for lots of youth and risk. but maybe toronto would rather invest in speed on defense.
- poopmouth

We will give you Gunnar and Ott with Oshie
- sycsam

and you get Scuderi back with another like piece?

Today @ 10:50 AM ET

That's just a whacko asking price on Sharp. A guy with a 5.9mill cap hit that played on the 3rd & 4th lines in March during the playoff race & games mattered. Good luck Chicago.
- Kevin R



I brought that up yesterday. Maybe all of us, including me are foolish our our rational returns of Kunitz. A second round pick is his value to me. Sharp and Kunitz had essentially the same year, drastic drop offs in numbers. While Kunitz is two years older, he is 2.05 million cheaper (something like that). If that is the going rate for Sharp, we should be asking the same for Kunitz. That isn't rational to believe he is worth that and the same with Sharp being worth what Chicago is reportedly asking for.

I actually brought this up when the price for Sharp was reported but I completely disagree on asking similar for Kunitz. With the price being so high for Sharp JR should be calling all the teams potentially in the market for Sharp and offering Kunitz for a good but smaller package to try to get someone to overpay but not drastically overpay out of sticker shock on Sharp. If Sharp is a 1st round pick, an A level prospect and a top 6 forward on an ELC, I'd be shopping Kunitz for a solid but not necessarily A level prospect, a young bottom 6 role player and a 2nd/3rd round pick and sell other GMs on how he's comparable to Sharp at a much lower cost.

I actually brought this up when the price for Sharp was reported but I completely disagree on asking similar for Kunitz. With the price being so high for Sharp JR should be calling all the teams potentially in the market for Sharp and offering Kunitz for a good but smaller package to try to get someone to overpay but not drastically overpay out of sticker shock on Sharp. If Sharp is a 1st round pick, an A level prospect and a top 6 forward on an ELC, I'd be shopping Kunitz for a solid but not necessarily A level prospect, a young bottom 6 role player and a 2nd/3rd round pick and sell other GMs on how he's comparable to Sharp at a much lower cost.
- jaydogg1974

Sharp will end up getting something like what you said to shop Kunitz for.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4982

My Oshie trade roster....it will never happen.

I have proposed this before but havent received a lot of feedback.

What about Kessel and some retained cash for Letang?

Similar age, and locked up until same season.

Kessel is a little overpaid, but they are similarly talented players.

I'd say that since they are similarly talented, then saying "hey, toronto. it'd be fair for you to retain at least 0.75 so that the salaries cancel since Kessel is currently overpaid and letang isn't."

It doesn't really help Toronto's rebuild since it's just exchanging star for star instead of exchanging a star for lots of youth and risk. but maybe toronto would rather invest in speed on defense.
- poopmouth

Here's some feedback, put the crack pipe down immediately.

I actually brought this up when the price for Sharp was reported but I completely disagree on asking similar for Kunitz. With the price being so high for Sharp JR should be calling all the teams potentially in the market for Sharp and offering Kunitz for a good but smaller package to try to get someone to overpay but not drastically overpay out of sticker shock on Sharp. If Sharp is a 1st round pick, an A level prospect and a top 6 forward on an ELC, I'd be shopping Kunitz for a solid but not necessarily A level prospect, a young bottom 6 role player and a 2nd/3rd round pick and sell other GMs on how he's comparable to Sharp at a much lower cost.
- jaydogg1974

I'm not saying we should ask for similar. I'm saying if a 33-year old winger for Chicago, who declined quite a bit from last season and is due to make 5.9 million per is worth that, Kunitz is a two-year older version of Sharp, who also hit a decline, but is quite a bit cheaper, should be in the same ballpark.

Kunitz isn't worth close to what Chicago is asking for Sharp. Most of us know that. But, its utterly ridiculous to think Sharp is worth close to that as well. His decline and his contract suggest otherwise.

I actually brought this up when the price for Sharp was reported but I completely disagree on asking similar for Kunitz. With the price being so high for Sharp JR should be calling all the teams potentially in the market for Sharp and offering Kunitz for a good but smaller package to try to get someone to overpay but not drastically overpay out of sticker shock on Sharp. If Sharp is a 1st round pick, an A level prospect and a top 6 forward on an ELC, I'd be shopping Kunitz for a solid but not necessarily A level prospect, a young bottom 6 role player and a 2nd/3rd round pick and sell other GMs on how he's comparable to Sharp at a much lower cost.
- jaydogg1974

Oh look at Mr Savvy.... that is 100% a smart move and JR should be doing that if they are wanting to sell on Kunitz. Please be wanting to sell on Kunitz for a 2nd, a solid prospect and a mid 6 winger.

I'm not saying we should ask for similar. I'm saying if a 33-year old winger for Chicago, who declined quite a bit from last season and is due to make 5.9 million per is worth that, Kunitz is a two-year older version of Sharp, who also hit a decline, but is quite a bit cheaper.

Kunitz isn't worth close to what Chicago is asking for Sharp. But, its utterly ridiculous to thing Sharp is worth close to that as well. His decline and his contract suggest otherwise.
- Oneonta Penguin

Hawks should just ask a 1st and maybe prospect for Sharp.

I'm not saying we should ask for similar. I'm saying if a 33-year old winger for Chicago, who declined quite a bit from last season and is due to make 5.9 million per is worth that, Kunitz is a two-year older version of Sharp, who also hit a decline, but is quite a bit cheaper.

Kunitz isn't worth close to what Chicago is asking for Sharp. But, its utterly ridiculous to thing Sharp is worth close to that as well. His decline and his contract suggest otherwise.
- Oneonta Penguin

If we don't count the postseason for either... Sharp scored 1 more goal than Kunitz in the 2nd half of the year. That is abysmal for someone who is starting to get in the worrisome age zone. He did have 5 goals and 15 points in 23 postseason games... but I think for 6 mil, you want more than that.

I think it would work for Dumo or Harrington+BB. Seems like a fair deal.

Id be more interested in Oshie than Semin, Kessel, or Sharp.
- sammy87

I feel as though Oshie is extremely overvalued because of his shootout performance in the Olympics. He's a good player, but not nearly the superstar SOME, not all, people try to claim he is.