If they trade Sutter effectively straight up with limited or no assets attached, I think it will be for another player on a one year deal (Lucic, Eriksson, Vrbata, Parenteau, etc.). Someone of higher quality like Backes or Ladd would require a package and I'd rather avoid that if possible. I'd still prefer to get young assets back from Sutter, but I wouldn't view a one for one as a major loss. Especially since I hate Sutter. The last thing I want the team to do is put all the chips on the table for one of the expensive assets (Kessel, Skinner, Oshie, etc.). That will kill the Penguins in a couple years.
- jfkst1

WOW

WOW
- nurk

Wow, you can read.

WOW
- nurk

You not welcome on your own board or something? All you do is nitpick and whine over here.

You not welcome on your own board or something? All you do is nitpick and whine over here.
- Guile

Do you think Sutter for Lucic straightup is something that could possibly happen?

Do you think Sutter for Lucic straightup is something that could possibly happen?
- nurk

Its a division trade, and a stupid one at that for Boston's view... they have centers.

Soderberg far and away is my top target. He's probably best as a 3C, but if they had someone else who could play there on the roster you could try him at 2W or even 2C if you want to throw Crosby and Malkin together some. Be interested to see what a guy who got 92 points the past 2 years as a 3rd liner could do with Malkin.

Guys like Frolik and Stafford are alright, but I wouldn't pay the premium price for them. I'd rather make sure I can extend Perron who I think is better than either. Frolik would at least be a nice fit because he's such a well rounded player, but 5M for him seems like alot when you have to look at new deals for Perron and Maatta next year and Pouliot after that.
- Tojo.

Everyone on this board wants Soderberg as or 3c. You do realize its going to take $4-5mil to get him?. I rather have Sutter at 3.3 and 4 years younger than Soderberg.

Do you think Sutter for Lucic straightup is something that could possibly happen?
- nurk

Depends on how BOS values Suckturd. They're trying to unload salary and could put Sutter in 2C and move Krejci and Bergeron together. I know you are smartest poster ever on HB, but something tells me Darren Dreger might have a better understanding of how teams view Sutter than you.

Its a division trade, and a stupid one at that for Boston's view... they have centers.
- Guile

Sooooooo, you also think that the Penguins and the Bruins are in the same division????

And you insulted me?

Depends on how BOS values Suckturd. They're trying to unload salary and could put Sutter in 2C and move Krejci and Bergeron together. I know you are smartest poster ever on HB, but something tells me Darren Dreger might have a better understanding of how teams view Sutter than you.
- jfkst1

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Depends on how BOS values Suckturd. They're trying to unload salary and could put Sutter in 2C and move Krejci and Bergeron together. I know you are smartest poster ever on HB, but something tells me Darren Dreger might have a better understanding of how teams view Sutter than you.
- jfkst1

So a team has a solid 1-2 punch at center and they want to eliminate that and put Sutter in as their number 2 center? Interesting theory.

And you do realize if Boston simply held onto Lucic and traded him at the deadline next year they'd probably get a first round pick and more for him right?

Its a division trade, and a stupid one at that for Boston's view... they have centers.
- Guile

http://m.bleacherreport.c...before-next-season/page/6

Sooooooo, you also think that the Penguins and the Bruins are in the same division????

And you insulted me?
- nurk

Ugh, conference... grow the (frank) up kid

- nurk

And auto flagging every post you make now

Laughable that Pitt fans keep saying no to Sharp, despite their annual early exit from the playoffs again. Fact is, if you guys don't overpay, one of your rivals will (see Washington), and you guys will be in a worse spot than you were last year. The Blackhawks, despite their salary cap dilemma, are the ones in the position of strength here, not the teams with missing parts.
- Katana777

If there is no salary cap, I agree. Since there is an actual cap, I completely 100% disagree!!!! Chicago will be forced to move Sharp and the return will be less than desirable. I see a B level prospect and a 2nd....

Ugh, conference... grow the (frank) up kid
- Guile

Oops, I'm sorry I made you mess up those words.

So a team has a solid 1-2 punch at center and they want to eliminate that and put Sutter in as their number 2 center? Interesting theory.

And you do realize if Boston simply held onto Lucic and traded him at the deadline next year they'd probably get a first round pick and more for him right?
- nurk

I don't know what Boston wants to do. Neither do you. They need more production out of their wings and want to drop salary. It's not impossible they could view this as a move in a positive direction for their roster. On another note, remember when Hextall traded Hartnell for Umberger? That sure as hell didn't make sense but it happened. I also remember Rutherford trading Despres for Lovejoy. NHL GMs make inconsistent decisions all the time. To assume that no team will overvalue Sutter is ignorant.

Oops, I'm sorry I made you mess up those words.
- nurk

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Everyone on this board wants Soderberg as or 3c. You do realize its going to take $4-5mil to get him?. I rather have Sutter at 3.3 and 4 years younger than Soderberg.
- joescullz

Sutter vs Soderberg is pretty much a wash to me. The reason you do it is because you can get a winger for the top 6 for Sutter (+) AND still have a solid 3C. I would be totally fine with Soderberg for $4M.

It's not their best bet but the Pens could also look at moving Sutter to the wing with Malkin. Worst case he can put the puck in the net and help out Geno with faceoffs.

I don't know what Boston wants to do. Neither do you. They need more production out of their wings and want to drop salary. It's not impossible they could view this as a move in a positive direction for their roster. On another note, remember when Hextall traded Hartnell for Umberger? That sure as hell didn't make sense but it happened. I also remember Rutherford trading Despres for Lovejoy. NHL GMs make inconsistent decisions all the time. To assume that no team will overvalue Sutter is ignorant.
- jfkst1

I didn't say someone wouldnt overvalue him. My point is I don't foresee anyone trading Sutter for Lucic straight up. If that were the case then people should be calling Rutherford non-stop hoping he'll accidentally deal them Malkin for pennies on the dollar

I didn't say someone wouldnt overvalue him. My point is I don't foresee anyone trading Sutter for Lucic straight up. If that were the case then people should be calling Rutherford non-stop hoping he'll accidentally deal them Malkin for pennies on the dollar
- nurk

And my point is you and I don't know how these GMs will perceive player value. I'm sure there are GMs that will have some of the same opinions and some that will diverge significantly. There'll be plenty of trades over the next week that both of us think are uneven. I guarantee it.

And my point is you and I don't know how these GMs will perceive player value. I'm sure there are GMs that will have some of the same opinions and some that will diverge significantly. There'll be plenty of trades over the next week that both of us think are uneven. I guarantee it.
- jfkst1

So the Lightning could trade their 3rd round pick for Malkin with the Penguins retaining half his salary because YOU and I don't know how the GMs perceive their value?

So the Lightning could trade their 3rd round pick for Malkin with the Penguins retaining half his salary because YOU and I don't know how the GMs perceive their value?
- nurk

Sure, right after the Pens trade Scuderi for Voracek and Giroux.

Sure, right after the Pens trade Scuderi for Voracek and Giroux.
- jfkst1

The penguins don't have the cap room for that. And you don't need perceived value to see that.

So, does Philly trade Coots today, or baby Schenn, or maybe Streit? For an old man he still has some value, decent sized contract though.