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drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
The report saying CHI currently asking for 1st rd pick, A-level prospect & top 6 forward on entry-level contract for Patrick Sharp.

Said on the radio here earlier that the report was possibly incorrect and that another source indicated the as was a 1st round pick OR and A level prospect OR a top 6 forward on an ELC. A lot of speculation about on JJs thread that this was the case since it came out Friday.

Regardless, Sharp's numbers dipped based on use. When he was playing 1st line minutes the numbers spiked up accordingly and he looked great back on the 1st line at the end of the POs. 3 cup wins and he is considered a leader in the Hawks room. He will be a serious asset for a young team. For Pitt he would bring a scoring winger but you already have experience (not that it's helped). Doubt you're a fit.

With Rutherford though who knows.

- tredbrta


I just don't understand why a team would trade a young top 6 player for an aging top 6 player.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
A Hornqvist - Crosby - Kessel line would be game over for the Eastern Conference lol
- thehockeygod



I feel like we'd give him to Malkin... but unless your GM decides to start binge drinking when JR throws a low ball offer, we realistically can't compete with what other teams can offer.
Bradlee3
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tanev hit was clean.
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
NO KESSEL !
nurk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: City of Champions, PA
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
The majority of Stanley Cup Champions have paid their top five players ~50 million.

Not going to read thru all the messages but I'd be interested in seeing where RW pulled this stat from.
thehockeygod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cloud 9, Halo County , ON
Joined: 05.28.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:33 PM ET
And the trade would be game over for the Penguin's future as Dubas would clean out what few assets remain.
- jfkst1



True but the only future the Pens should care about should be the next 3-5 year window to win another cup before Crosby and Malkin's window closes on their careers.

I agree, the assets aren't there though. Rutherford already flushed your '15 1st and '16 2nd rounders down the toilet
MyKillJackedSon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.19.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:33 PM ET
Tarasenko just seems untouchable, so wasn't including him. No on the other two, because Pouliot will be as good as both of them, and the Penguins need top 6. Schwartz is a legitimate top 6 scoring winger, and at 22, has his best years ahead of him.
- cap1681


That's the thing. He "will" be that good. Pitts needs that good now.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:34 PM ET
Lets go left field here.

Sutter+ 2015 3rd.
For
Lupul.

Lupul will stay healthy and not be able to hangout with Phaneuf's wife while injured. "He promises" of course.

Kunitz Crosby Lupul
Perron Malkin Hornqvist
???

- MyKillJackedSon



LMAO, TOR fans are so obvious...PIT wouldn't take lupol on unless you gave us a 1st rounder, haha.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:35 PM ET
Lets go left field here.

Sutter+ 2015 3rd.
For
Lupul.

Lupul will stay healthy and not be able to hangout with Phaneuf's wife while injured. "He promises" of course.

Kunitz Crosby Lupul
Perron Malkin Hornqvist
???

- MyKillJackedSon


Jakes_04
Joined: 04.04.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:37 PM ET
Not going to read thru all the messages but I'd be interested in seeing where RW pulled this stat from.
- nurk



I think he intended to say that cup teams spent about 50% of cap on 5 players.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:38 PM ET
True but the only future the Pens should care about should be the next 3-5 year window to win another cup before Crosby and Malkin's window closes on their careers.

I agree, the assets aren't there though. Rutherford already flushed your '15 1st and '16 2nd rounders down the toilet

- thehockeygod


That short-sighted mindset is what got Shero fired and the Pens into this predicament in the first place.
MyKillJackedSon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.19.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
LMAO, TOR fans are so obvious...PIT wouldn't take lupol on unless you gave us a 1st rounder, haha.
- mventres


Okay, what do you have in mind? Good luck getting a top six fwd trying to get rid of scuderi lmao.
nurk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: City of Champions, PA
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
I think he intended to say that cup teams spent about 50% of cap on 5 players.
- Jakes_04

That would certainly make sense. The only thing hurting that arguement is the fact that after 50, he put the word MILLION.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
Can someone link me to the report that the return for Oshie would be Bennett and Zlobin? Sounds way to (frank)ing good to be true
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4982

My Oshie trade roster....it will never happen.

- sammy87

The one thing that won't happen is you won't get Pulkkinen that easily. Other then that, those are reasonable, good moves that might happen. Really unsure on Oshie's price, odd that his name is out there so much without a rumored return.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:41 PM ET
Can someone link me to the report that the return for Oshie would be Bennett and Zlobin? Sounds way to (frank)ing good to be true
- Victoro311


Holy crap would I do that in a second!
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
Can someone link me to the report that the return for Oshie would be Bennett and Zlobin? Sounds way to (frank)ing good to be true
- Victoro311

its not a report its a lame trade proposal someone made
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
Can someone link me to the report that the return for Oshie would be Bennett and Zlobin? Sounds way to (frank)ing good to be true
- Victoro311


Went 6 to 12 just reading that
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
Okay, what do you have in mind? Good luck getting a top six fwd trying to get rid of scuderi lmao.
- MyKillJackedSon


Only way i could see sutter going to TOR for Lupul is if the Leafs retain salary and return the Pens 2nd round pick in 2016.
thehockeygod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cloud 9, Halo County , ON
Joined: 05.28.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
That short-sighted mindset is what got Shero fired and the Pens into this predicament in the first place.
- jfkst1



Yeah I hear ya. It's tough when you have superstar players like that though but it's also the complete lack of drafting and development. It's not like you haven't had draft picks, there have been ZERO forwards developed through the system through the Crosby era other than Beau Bennett

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00007475.html


The wingers the Penguins have employed for Crosby just aren't good enough, just as the centres the Leafs have had for Kessel have been not good enough. I'd love to see what Crosby and Kessel could do together.



jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
Can someone link me to the report that the return for Oshie would be Bennett and Zlobin? Sounds way to (frank)ing good to be true
- Victoro311


That's every bit as unlikely as the Sharp trade demands except in the opposite direction.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
Can someone link me to the report that the return for Oshie would be Bennett and Zlobin? Sounds way to (frank)ing good to be true
- Victoro311


Its from Pens Labyrinth , and it says that the source is unknown and probably bullcrap
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:48 PM ET
Yeah I hear ya. It's tough when you have superstar players like that though but it's also the complete lack of drafting and development. It's not like you haven't had draft picks, there have been ZERO forwards developed through the system through the Crosby era other than Beau Bennett

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00007475.html


The wingers the Penguins have employed for Crosby just aren't good enough, just as the centres the Leafs have had for Kessel have been not good enough. I'd love to see what Crosby and Kessel could do together.

- thehockeygod


Part of it is poor drafting/developing is certainly part of that. But it's hard to have much of a future when constantly trading picks for rentals and selling on young players for older ones.
MyKillJackedSon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.19.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
Only way i could see sutter going to TOR for Lupul is if the Leafs retain salary and return the Pens 2nd round pick in 2016.
- cap1681


You're hilarious if you think Sutter is worth lupul and a second.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
Okay, what do you have in mind? Good luck getting a top six fwd trying to get rid of scuderi lmao.
- MyKillJackedSon



Because that has to be done in the same deal?
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
You're hilarious if you think Sutter is worth lupul and a second.
- MyKillJackedSon


Your hilarious if you think Lupul is worth Sutter and a 3rd.
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