But the draft is happening the soonest so it's the most important thing!
- Sharks_12

It's all about the draft right now.........it's very exciting time, i think there's gunna be alot of trades going down at the draft.
- SJSharks39

I am excited for some potential trades. Hope we can pull something off that helps us make the playoffs.

I am excited for some potential trades. Hope we can pull something off that helps us make the playoffs.
- mxgsfmdpx

Yeah i'd like to see us go after Spurgeon.......i asked Tony Dean if a Hertl & 2016 1st would be enough.......but he never replied back.

Spurgeon with Vlasic, he can run the 2nd pp unit & take pk minutes from Burns. Would love to see Spurgeon in teal.

I am excited for some potential trades. Hope we can pull something off that helps us make the playoffs.
- mxgsfmdpx

Honestly, this team is already a playoff team. Just a fresh season, fresh coaching staff, etc...that'll make all the difference in the world. Our team is already good enough to make the playoffs. If that's your only goal then all we have to do is nothing. We could stand pat the entire offseason. The Sharks underperformed in 2014-15. We watch them every game we know what they're capable of.

We keep hearing the redundant dialogue of Marleau, Thornton, etc getting older we need a new generation, etc etc. The hope is that the 3 year period of drafts from 2013-14 through this year will get us that generation. Obviously, the best piece coming this year in this draft at #9.

3 year period has seen us draft: Hertl, Tierney, O'Regan, Watson, Ryan, Mueller, Brodzinski, Goldobin, Bergman, Rod, Schoenborn, Sadowy, Vanier, Chartier, and Labanc...plus every pick we're about to get on Friday and Saturday. There is a lot of talent in there. Some of it was hidden, and we mined it out of the later rounds. However, within 3-5 years all that talent will be bubbling to the surface. We're actually keeping our picks (for the most part), and trading for other picks and it's showing by more talent being present in our farm system.

The way you get to the Stanley Cup is through the draft. Cheap team controlled talent that allows you to afford high priced UFAs, and resign your own players. Plus, surplus can be used to trade for the pieces we need.

So get excited about the draft brotha. This is where it's at for the Sharks. Whether you're going for the cup, refresh/rebuild/whatever, or a full tear it down rebuild. The draft is where it's at!

watching some videos for the prospects around our pick range. Connor's mitts really jump out from the video. He has Goldobin level stick handling, and Nieto type speed. Very interesting and potentially dangerous combination.

Werenski, the one I want the Sharks to draft, is going to have a hell of a career. When you consider that he isn't even 18 years old yet. He'll be drafted into the NHL at 17. Pretty crazy. Since he's a full year younger than Provorov and Hanifin there's good reason to think he could end up being the best D man in this draft. I just hope the Sharks get him! I know the knock on him is that he's "soft", but he's 17 years old! Plenty of time for him to become a grumpy ass like all of us on these forums.



Barzal is someone I'm not the highest on (for the Sharks), but there's no doubt he's very talented. I just worry about the fact that he's not even in the top 20 in points/minute in his draft class. He played 29:30 minutes per game to fill out his stat sheet. On top of that he's not much of a scorer, but an excellent playmaker. More of the Thornton type of player that will fill up on assists and get a bunch of assists. We already have one of those players in our system with Labanc. Barzal, of course, has more upside than Labanc, but the Sharks need more finishers imo. This is all a moot point of course because he won't be there when the #9 pick rolls around.

I am much more concerned about who we sign as a goalie (or trade for) and who we sign (or trade for) to round out the Top 4 D, than I am who we draft in any round this weekend.
- mxgsfmdpx

Of course we are more concerned about who we get in net and on D. However, get excited for the draft my friend. Trust me. This is one of the deepest drafts in decades. The sharks could not have picked a better year to finish top 10. A lot of teams are going to be wheeling and dealing before and during the draft. How they wheel and deal will determine a lot of things for us.

Chiarelli shot out a comment the other day that he expects to fill his goaltending need BEFORE the draft. How he fills that need will narrow our options and give us a better idea of the cost on the trade market for a goalie vs UFA. Like selling some products seasonally, picks values tend to inflate during a draft and then deflate after until the trade deadline.

And quite frankly, many of the top 12 picks are NHL ready in size like Ekblad was last season. We could potentially fill a defensive need right from Draft with Provorov/Werenski if they have a strong camp. Both are going to be studs. Both are already 200+ pounds with room to get bigger. Provorov particularly is said to be the most NHL ready.

watching some videos for the prospects around our pick range. Connor's mitts really jump out from the video. He has Goldobin level stick handling, and Nieto type speed. Very interesting and potentially dangerous combination.

Werenski, the one I want the Sharks to draft, is going to have a hell of a career. When you consider that he isn't even 18 years old yet. He'll be drafted into the NHL at 17. Pretty crazy. Since he's a full year younger than Provorov and Hanifin there's good reason to think he could end up being the best D man in this draft. I just hope the Sharks get him! I know the knock on him is that he's "soft", but he's 17 years old! Plenty of time for him to become a grumpy ass like all of us on these forums.



Barzal is someone I'm not the highest on (for the Sharks), but there's no doubt he's very talented. I just worry about the fact that he's not even in the top 20 in points/minute in his draft class. He played 29:30 minutes per game to fill out his stat sheet. On top of that he's not much of a scorer, but an excellent playmaker. More of the Thornton type of player that will fill up on assists and get a bunch of assists. We already have one of those players in our system with Labanc. Barzal, of course, has more upside than Labanc, but the Sharks need more finishers imo. This is all a moot point of course because he won't be there when the #9 pick rolls around.
- IDtheJC

I am high on Connor as well. But if we pick him, I will secretly be hoping Wilson moves down and secures another 2nd +.

Werenski is a guy who was nose to nose with Provorov until the NCAA year was over, and people just focused on Provorov because he was still playing.

Werenski is young with room to mold himself. Yet his skating is already better than many of our NHL defensemen in every direction and his offensive upside is undeniable. He is 6 months younger than Hanifin, and 6 months at this age might as well be like 3 years if the prospect was in their 20's. The changes you see between players at age 17-18 over 6-8 months are usually staggering.

The guy is 6'2 and 214 pounds, and by all accounts, still growing taller. He was 6'0 and a half last june. His physical maturation continues. Also, not sure why he is labelled as soft. He does not go out of his way to hit, but neither does he shy from it, or corners or the front of the net. He does follow the puck a bit instead of reading the play, but most people jumping into a new league get caught doing that as they cannot yet read the play.

Just figured i'd put the rest of these draft profiles up for anyone who hasn't seen them yet.

Here's Barzal...

http://www.fearthefin.com...arzal-is-a-definitive-top

Here's Provorov...

http://www.fearthefin.com...-could-be-the-sharks-best

Here's Zacha...

http://www.fearthefin.com...n-jose-sharks-pavel-zacha

Salary cap going up to $71.4 million. I know some people seemed pretty confident it was going to be $73 million for some reason.

I still miss CapGeek

Salary cap going up to $71.4 million. I know some people seemed pretty confident it was going to be $73 million for some reason.

I still miss CapGeek
- Sharks_12

I also miss CapGeek. What an excellent site that was.

Salary cap going up to $71.4 million. I know some people seemed pretty confident it was going to be $73 million for some reason.

I still miss CapGeek
- Sharks_12

https://hockeyscap.com/

Complete with armchair GM

Salary cap going up to $71.4 million. I know some people seemed pretty confident it was going to be $73 million for some reason.

I still miss CapGeek
- Sharks_12

I haven't seen anything about 73 personally. I've been reading 71 million for weeks. Of course, it was unconfirmed, but Bettman said it was going to be 71 million during the playoffs. This just means there's an extra 2 million for the Sharks to work with over the 69 million cap.

I am high on Connor as well. But if we pick him, I will secretly be hoping Wilson moves down and secures another 2nd +.

Werenski is a guy who was nose to nose with Provorov until the NCAA year was over, and people just focused on Provorov because he was still playing.

Werenski is young with room to mold himself. Yet his skating is already better than many of our NHL defensemen in every direction and his offensive upside is undeniable. He is 6 months younger than Hanifin, and 6 months at this age might as well be like 3 years if the prospect was in their 20's. The changes you see between players at age 17-18 over 6-8 months are usually staggering.

The guy is 6'2 and 214 pounds, and by all accounts, still growing taller. He was 6'0 and a half last june. His physical maturation continues. Also, not sure why he is labelled as soft. He does not go out of his way to hit, but neither does he shy from it, or corners or the front of the net. He does follow the puck a bit instead of reading the play, but most people jumping into a new league get caught doing that as they cannot yet read the play.
- j0e Th0rnton

His label is pretty consistent across the board. I don't know who has siblings, but have you ever gotten in trouble from your mom for "Not knowing your own strength" as a kid? I think that's where Werenski is at these days. Like you said he's still growing. So years of playing the game a certain way. He's got the gentle giant complex that coaches will work out of him. He plays tentative and smart hockey because just a year ago he couldn't bulldoze the guy. Now he can!

A couple things I havent heard from DW before, you have to have cap to dabble in FA which we do and the owner is fully committed and has allowed us to spend to the cap. Sounds like real changes are going to happen.

I haven't seen anything about 73 personally. I've been reading 71 million for weeks. Of course, it was unconfirmed, but Bettman said it was going to be 71 million during the playoffs. This just means there's an extra 2 million for the Sharks to work with over the 69 million cap.
- IDtheJC

And 2 more mil if we LTIR Torres before the season.

A couple things I havent heard from DW before, you have to have cap to dabble in FA which we do and the owner is fully committed and has allowed us to spend to the cap. Sounds like real changes are going to happen.
- BeastModeS62

Well, yeah traditionally we've been the cap strapped team. That makes it tough to get into UFAs. That doesn't mean he's going to go full-retard and sign everyone to cap strap us again. However, we have plenty to work with, and he'll target the players that Deboer wants.

And 2 more mil if we LTIR Torres before the season.
- SJSharks39

We won't know that until preseason. Torres is going to try and play. The Sharks are content to let him try.

So i seen some of the Ranger fans eying Goldobin & our #39 pick in a trade for Talbot........ i politely said no thanks.

I haven't seen anything about 73 personally. I've been reading 71 million for weeks. Of course, it was unconfirmed, but Bettman said it was going to be 71 million during the playoffs. This just means there's an extra 2 million for the Sharks to work with over the 69 million cap.
- IDtheJC

I think it was more fans of other teams posting months ago that they knew it would be $73 million.

Question! I want your opinions of this. Michael Del Zotto offer sheet? I wanted the Sharks to sign him as a low risk/high reward signing last offseason. It didn't happen and he went to Flyers. Do you offer him 3-3.5 million/per year, and give a 2nd rounder as compensation for him? He would be an offensive guy to run out there with Braun. A puck mover and someone who could quarterback the second PP unit.

3 years 10-11 million? Thoughts?

I think it was more fans of other teams posting months ago that they knew it would be $73 million.
- Sharks_12

Ah okay gotcha.

A couple things I havent heard from DW before, you have to have cap to dabble in FA which we do and the owner is fully committed and has allowed us to spend to the cap. Sounds like real changes are going to happen.
- BeastModeS62

This is great to hear. DW has a huge opportunity to make some great moves.

So i seen some of the Ranger fans eying Goldobin & our #39 pick in a trade for Talbot........ i politely said no thanks.
- SJSharks39

If that is the price they are setting....rofl
Rags fans and Sather will be in Panic mode come February when they realize the teams that needed a goalie went with reasonable options and now they are soon to lose Talbot for nothing to UFA.

There are too many available options to try to strong arm a good deal. they have no leverage. The market is full of options.

If MacDonalds drives the price of a bigmac to $10 a burger, but Burger King still sells whoppers for $3, people will just go get a whopper and MacDonalds will soon reduce the price again

Question! I want your opinions of this. Michael Del Zotto offer sheet? I wanted the Sharks to sign him as a low risk/high reward signing last offseason. It didn't happen and he went to Flyers. Do you offer him 3-3.5 million/per year, and give a 2nd rounder as compensation for him? He would be an offensive guy to run out there with Braun. A puck mover and someone who could quarterback the second PP unit.

3 years 10-11 million? Thoughts?
- IDtheJC

No, No and No.

He did okay with the flyers because Berube literally let them play under almost no system(And the team was a trainwreck)

Under a system coach like Deboer, he is in the doghouse constantly.

Trust me, I watch a lot of flyer games because the fellows at Hockeyforums.net are usually in chat during games and we watch and chat about multiple games together on game night. And the place is 75% flyer fans

A couple things I havent heard from DW before, you have to have cap to dabble in FA which we do and the owner is fully committed and has allowed us to spend to the cap. Sounds like real changes are going to happen.
- BeastModeS62

Where did DW say these things?