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kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 21 @ 7:21 PM ET
Tear it apart...

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4812
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 21 @ 7:36 PM ET
With Martin and Erhoff possibly walking, the Pens would be wise to focus on shoring up their D corps and deal with the bottom six concurrently. Sekera would be a nice fit and may be reasonably priced, and maybe Barett Jackman if the price is right on a short 1-2 year deal. Skinner, Kessel and Semin are bad ideas. I can see Drew Stafford and maybe even Mike Ribero, if his personal issues ever die down drawing the Pens' interest.
- CappyJr.


Sekera is probably going to be the highest paid UFA this season. He has zero baggage and is a capable top pairing dman in his prime. Only minor knock on him is he is a left shot, which Pens already have an excess of. Jackman is a terrible fit for Johnston's system.
so_buzz11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Home, PA
Joined: 05.14.2015

Jun 21 @ 7:38 PM ET
With Martin and Erhoff possibly walking, the Pens would be wise to focus on shoring up their D corps and deal with the bottom six concurrently. Sekera would be a nice fit and may be reasonably priced, and maybe Barett Jackman if the price is right on a short 1-2 year deal. Skinner, Kessel and Semin are bad ideas. I can see Drew Stafford and maybe even Mike Ribero, if his personal issues ever die down drawing the Pens' interest.
- CappyJr.

I know there was talk already about Drew Stafford before, but I took another look at the Pens options, and Stafford could be one and has played his whole NHL career for a very bad team (Buffalo). Stafford finally got a short 1/3 season with Winnipeg. He played much better. From a -18 to a plus 6, he had .73 points/game - I know that was only 1/3 of a season and he might not do that (But on the Penguins top line maybe he does). That would be 60 points. The most a winger had on the Penguins this year was 51 points.

Another fact about Drew Stafford: He played with Crosby in juniors at Shattuck-Saint Mary's, and Crosby had 72G, 90A (162 points) in 57 games. Stafford had 49G, 67A (116 points) in 64 when they won the championship in 2003. Maybe Crosby could find some chemistry with Stafford again.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 21 @ 7:46 PM ET
Tear it apart...

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4812

- kfinl170



Really banking on 2 unprovens to step in in your roster... and our scouting reports say neither was ready to come up at the end of last year. But you are the first I've seen here to give Franson 6 mil, which is likely what he's going to get, if not a tad higher.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 21 @ 7:48 PM ET
Ryan why are you so stuck on Semin? Who cares if the numbers are close as of right now? Semin is 32 and Skinner is 23 and that is the #1 and beat reason to go after Skinner. Semins career is over let it go already!
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 21 @ 7:53 PM ET
Ryan why are you so stuck on Semin? Who cares if the numbers are close as of right now? Semin is 32 and Skinner is 23 and that is the #1 and beat reason to go after Skinner. Semins career is over let it go already!
- Dcoms



Semin is 31... Skinner is going to cost more in assets and cap... Semin has out performed most of Skinner's career. Both are injury prone.

Why are you so stuck on spending way more for someone who hasn't had one year near half of Semin's career, and how do you know he is over? Please, give us your insider information on how someone that you don't even know the age of is done.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 21 @ 7:54 PM ET
Tear it apart...

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4812

- kfinl170


I dont like the Kruger part. I'm assuming that was an offersheet for $2.5M and a 2nd round pick. Thats a lot for a 4c.

Dont mind the Sutter-Kassian swap. Not sure why many seem to be assuming that VAN would want Sutter....but I'm debating whether Id rather trade Sutter for Vrbata (short term, bona-fide top 6 veteran) or Kassian (cheaper/upside guy that hasnt shown much in 3 NHL seasons).

In a vaccuum I'd rather have Kassian than Sutter on the 3rd line...but I feel a Sutter trade HAS to result in a top 6 guy.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:18 PM ET
Looking at some of the comments, & the position we are in currently. Although it's great fun to throw around ideas to try & get every available asset that is made available - we don't have the resources to do it or are in a cap friendly scenario to be able to do it.

These players are being made available now for 1 purpose only - to get a maximum return for them. More teams with more resources (that they are willing to trade or are in a position to trade), will take these players not us.

We need to keep looking for the players under the radar or have been given up on by their management. Cheap & talented with no reputation. Once we get hold of them then the reputation will be made!
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:21 PM ET
Ennis Laich Semin lineup

We need guys like Ennis, Okposo and Oshie on this team. Good two way responsible forwards.

- Barnaby36

I would love to add any of those guys, but Oshie is the only one I could see us actually get. I have yet to hear a rumored asking price for him. Ennis isn't being offered. Can't believe Snow is actually thinking of dealing Okposo, but it won't be to us.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:22 PM ET
Looking at some of the comments, & the position we are in currently. Although it's great fun to throw around ideas to try & get every available asset that is made available - we don't have the resources to do it or are in a cap friendly scenario to be able to do it.

These players are being made available now for 1 purpose only - to get a maximum return for them. More teams with more resources (that they are willing to trade or are in a position to trade), will take these players not us.

We need to keep looking for the players under the radar or have been given up on by their management. Cheap & talented with no reputation. Once we get hold of them then the reputation will be made!

- Aussiepenguin


That screams "Aussie wants Semin"
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:24 PM ET
Put this in last blog but no one gave it love nor hate?

What do you think?






Just (frank)in around;

Perron, Sid, Horny
Sven B, Geno, Dupuis
Higgins, Kuznetsov, Condra
Spaling, Sundqvist, Bennett

Maatta, Tanger
Pouliot, Dumo
Cole, Lovejob

Flower
Zats.

Sutter traded to Canucks for Higgins & Sven B
Kunitz + Harrington traded to Caps for Kuznetsov
Scuds still here until trade deadline.
Rust, Wilson, Sheary, Farnham as many as we can signed 2 way contracts.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:25 PM ET
That screams "Aussie wants Semin"
- Guile


Unless Semin puts his arse out for dimes - he isn't what I call cheap!
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:26 PM ET
spent like half an hour on this in a massive attempt to get younger and more skilled...thinking a little outside the box. Let me know what you think.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4826
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:26 PM ET
I dont like the Kruger part. I'm assuming that was an offersheet for $2.5M and a 2nd round pick. Thats a lot for a 4c.

Dont mind the Sutter-Kassian swap. Not sure why many seem to be assuming that VAN would want Sutter....but I'm debating whether Id rather trade Sutter for Vrbata (short term, bona-fide top 6 veteran) or Kassian (cheaper/upside guy that hasnt shown much in 3 NHL seasons).

In a vaccuum I'd rather have Kassian than Sutter on the 3rd line...but I feel a Sutter trade HAS to result in a top 6 guy.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4831

Here's a redo...
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:28 PM ET
spent like half an hour on this in a massive attempt to get younger and more skilled...thinking a little outside the box. Let me know what you think.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4826

- YouMeAndDupuis9


How did you sign Taffoli? Or was via offer sheet?
mmonana120
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.30.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:30 PM ET
spent like half an hour on this in a massive attempt to get younger and more skilled...thinking a little outside the box. Let me know what you think.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4826

- YouMeAndDupuis9



I like it except I'd sign a cheaper 3rd center than Soderberg. I personally am not a fan of his. No reason or anything, I just dont see ghe need to spend that much on a third center.

Plus that way you would not be that close to the cap if injuries hit. Otherwise I like it.
mmonana120
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.30.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:32 PM ET
https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4830

Wanted to see how much cap space left if signed Drew Stafford and than traded Sutter. I did deal for Vrbata just because I felt the better top 6 target coming back and both only on 1 yr deals.
PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

Jun 21 @ 8:34 PM ET
Put this in last blog but no one gave it love nor hate?

What do you think?






Just (frank)in around;

Perron, Sid, Horny
Sven B, Geno, Dupuis
Higgins, Kuznetsov, Condra
Spaling, Sundqvist, Bennett

Maatta, Tanger
Pouliot, Dumo
Cole, Lovejob

Flower
Zats.

Sutter traded to Canucks for Higgins & Sven B
Kunitz + Harrington traded to Caps for Kuznetsov
Scuds still here until trade deadline.
Rust, Wilson, Sheary, Farnham as many as we can signed 2 way contracts.

- Aussiepenguin


I don't think Kunitz and Harrington gets you Kuznetsov. The Caps are high on him.
mmonana120
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.30.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:34 PM ET
How did you sign Taffoli? Or was via offer sheet?
- Aussiepenguin


My guess is offer sheet. 1st and 3rd in 16. I think its worth it bc got 2 more thirds.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:37 PM ET
This is total non-sense and just playing around but would you....

Kessel with 2M retained

For

Pouliot, Jarry, Kunitz and Scuderi



Leafs get 2 nice prospects for Kessel, and can afford to eat the 2M, plus Scuds/Kunitz money as they will be going young so they'll have the cap space for the next 2 years, and the real money doesn't matter to the cash machine Leafs.

Is Kessel at 6M and clearing Scuds and Kunitz from the books worth moving our top prospect and a solid G prospect?? Scuds and Kunitz $$$ clears enough space to pay Kessel his 6M, than sign Franson to fill the D hole made by moving Pouliot.


Once again, fantasy land... But would you do it?

- Willaged

Take Pouliot out and put say Cole or Harrington in and it's fine but no to trading Pouliot.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:37 PM ET
I don't think Kunitz and Harrington gets you Kuznetsov. The Caps are high on him.
- PittsPens


They are in a little cap hell trouble at the moment. They have 3 priorities (Kuznetsov being 1), & not a lot of room, not to mention others like Ward who they want but cannot have but will have to replace.

I think Harrington is the gem for them & Kunitz experience up front will help as well.

I doubt the Canucks do Sutter for Higgins & Sven either but you never know. I believe Higgins would be a steal if we could get him.

As I said just (frank)in around.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 8:38 PM ET
spent like half an hour on this in a massive attempt to get younger and more skilled...thinking a little outside the box. Let me know what you think.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4826

- YouMeAndDupuis9


a lot of very interesting things going on here.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 21 @ 8:39 PM ET
https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4831

Here's a redo...

- kfinl170


Bennett and Sutter won't bring back Nino, but I like you're line of thinking. Got to get a young wing.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:46 PM ET
spent like half an hour on this in a massive attempt to get younger and more skilled...thinking a little outside the box. Let me know what you think.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/4826

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Zero chance on the Toffoli deal. The rest of the moves are reasonable to hope for.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:48 PM ET
How did you sign Taffoli? Or was via offer sheet?
- Aussiepenguin


Yea, offer sheet so a 1st and a 3rd along with that. Hoping the Kings can't match that. I had it in the description but the description didnt post for some reason. Also gave some thought to offer sheeting Carl Hagelin around that price. Anders Lee was a guy I offersheet-ed in an older post.

Bottom line, in my roster, we get a young-productive 2nd line winger via offersheet and the other from Pouliot trade.
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