Yeah, I just checked his sh% and totally edited my post. But his scoring chance numbers have always been solid.
- Nucker101

Hes fine, but around the 2.5-3m range as a 3rd line depth guy you move up to Top 6 when injuries happen. Once you pay him 4m, him as a Top 6 regular...woof

Hes fine, but around the 2.5-3m range as a 3rd line depth guy you move up to Top 6 when injuries happen. Once you pay him 4m, him as a Top 6 regular...woof
- DDM-Coga

Yeah, that's most likely the case. But GM's are desperate, they're not dumb but they do stupid things when their job is one the line.

Yeah, that's most likely the case. But GM's are desperate, they're not dumb but they do stupid things when their job is one the line.
- Nucker101

I wonder bc the cap isnt as high as teams first assumed if guys are going to be coming down wtih their demands.

Seems like a really bad year to be a UFA

I wonder bc the cap isnt as high as teams first assumed if guys are going to be coming down wtih their demands.

Seems like a really bad year to be a UFA
- DDM-Coga

Maybe, but there are also a some teams who are close to or below to the cap floor so either they'll be raising the prices or they'll be taking salary from the contending teams to give those teams a chance at signing someone.

I don't think there's ever been a bad year to be a good UFA recently. Especially for defensemen.

I wonder bc the cap isnt as high as teams first assumed if guys are going to be coming down wtih their demands.

Seems like a really bad year to be a UFA
- DDM-Coga

I'm going to offer sheet that hoagie

I'm going to offer sheet that hoagie
- glove_was_stuck

Phil's under contract.

I'm going to offer sheet that hoagie
- glove_was_stuck

(frank) off get your own grinder

IMHO I'd prefer to see the Flames save $5-6M in cap space for a defenseman. Although 5M+ for a free agent Dman like Franson is an overpayment (as are all FAs) - he's a legit top 4, right handed Dman, which is exactly what the Flames need.
If more size upfront is what we need, we have guys coming through the system like Shore, Wolfe & Smith that could slot into the bottom 2 lines next year.
Unless its a low-ball offer for a guy like Backes, I woudn't want to give up a high end prospect or high pick for a guy who's role we could fill internally now or in a couple years.

IMHO I'd prefer to see the Flames save $5-6M in cap space for a defenseman. Although 5M+ for a free agent Dman like Franson is an overpayment (as are all FAs) - he's a legit top 4, right handed Dman, which is exactly what the Flames need.
If more size upfront is what we need, we have guys coming through the system like Shore, Wolfe & Smith that could slot into the bottom 2 lines next year.
Unless its a low-ball offer for a guy like Backes, I woudn't want to give up a high end prospect or high pick for a guy who's role we could fill internally now or in a couple years.
- Cowboy12

Franson isn't good defensively though, to me it's silly to pay 5M+ long-term for a d-man who needs to be protected from the other team's best forwards. Michalek or Beauchemin would be much more cost effective signings. I would even sign as guy like Ehrhoff instead if the term was short.

Franson is more of a #5 d-man who's a PP specialist.

Franson isn't good defensively though, to me it's silly to pay 5M+ long-term for a d-man who needs to be protected from the other team's best forwards. Michalek or Beauchemin would be much more cost effective signings. I would even sign as guy like Ehrhoff instead if the term was short.

Franson is more of a #5 d-man who's a PP specialist.
- Nucker101

Good point re: Franson, we have enough offensive Dman on the roster already. What I'm getting at is that money should be spent on defense rather than injury prone PF past his prime.

(frank) off get your own grinder
- DDM-Coga

No. I want that one.

Good point re: Franson, we have enough offensive Dman on the roster already. What I'm getting at is that money should be spent on defense rather than injury prone PF past his prime.
- Cowboy12

That I can agree with.

(frank) off get your own grinder
- DDM-Coga

I just had a mustard and baloney sandwich . Almost as under rated as Keith Yandle.

I just had a mustard and baloney sandwich . Almost as under rated as Keith Yandle.
- Jeropotato

Did your poop retain 50% of it?

I see Backes as a similar player to Gio. I think he would provide this team with the same sprite and leadership that Gio brings to the game. I could be wrong but from what i understand they're looking for some scoring touch and have some cap issues. I see a trade involving Hudler and Backes as the starting point. This would gain them the scoring touch but there would need to be more to solve there cap issue.

Did your poop retain 50% of it?
- Nucker101

I dunno...just finished 5 minutes ago. Ask me tommorow at about 10am.

I see Backes as a similar player to Gio. I think he would provide this team with the same sprite and leadership that Gio brings to the game. I could be wrong but from what i understand they're looking for some scoring touch and have some cap issues. I see a trade involving Hudler and Backes as the starting point. This would gain them the scoring touch but there would need to be more to solve there cap issue.
- Yeah...Baby

In some ways....but Gio is just an extremely productive player on top of all that.

I see Backes as a similar player to Gio. I think he would provide this team with the same sprite and leadership that Gio brings to the game. I could be wrong but from what i understand they're looking for some scoring touch and have some cap issues. I see a trade involving Hudler and Backes as the starting point. This would gain them the scoring touch but there would need to be more to solve there cap issue.
- Yeah...Baby

A lot of people are questioning if Backes is even captain material. Plus he's had multiple concussions and is on the wrong side of 30. I would only trade for him if the price was reasonable and i suspect it won't be.

Hudler for Backes I could get on board with though, but the Blues would want more.

I just had a mustard and baloney sandwich . Almost as under rated as Keith Yandle.
- Jeropotato

"Turkey and Cheese is the OEL of sandwiches. That means it's the best if you're not picking up what I'm putting down. "

#JamesTannerAneccdotes

No. I want that one.
- glove_was_stuck

- DDM-Coga

I'm taking one of those. That's a live bear! Not the Flyfreaky kind...

if 'cups full of blood' is what you're after, lucic has a reputation for handing those out.
- docavalanche

Why, does he use a diva cup or something?

What would be a legit offer/return for Malkin?

Bennett +?
- stowerkraut

Probably, but that doesn't make sense for the flames as nice as the immediate return would be. I really wanna see Bennett have a long career in Calgary, I think he's the kind of player who wins a team championships.

Probably, but that doesn't make sense for the flames as nice as the immediate return would be. I really wanna see Bennett have a long career in Calgary, I think he's the kind of player who wins a team championships.
- Saskabush

I see Backes as a similar player to Gio. I think he would provide this team with the same sprite and leadership that Gio brings to the game. I could be wrong but from what i understand they're looking for some scoring touch and have some cap issues. I see a trade involving Hudler and Backes as the starting point. This would gain them the scoring touch but there would need to be more to solve there cap issue.
- Yeah...Baby

I may be biased because he plays in the same division, but leadership and backes go together like diet and fat deadmarsh. As evidence, their playoff performances the past several seasons.