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MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 16 @ 2:31 PM ET
Interesting take from Rags Blog........When asked what "they", obviously not Sather, would want for NASH. 2 suggestions were given so far.

1. Nash wouldn't waive to go to Buffalo
If he did I'd want Eichel


2. Dont think it matters b/c Nash will not be listing Buff. as possible trade destination.

So much consternation for so little possibility.............

"I come from Downtown, Born and ready for you"


mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 16 @ 2:33 PM ET
[quote=TheSabresTaco]Gonna post this again.

Let's pretend I'm a vegan, I don't eat gluten because it's trendy and I like ROR.

And let's say we trade for ROR in fantasy land. A 55 point center.

And let's say we only trade for him if we see him playing wing 95% of the time and fills in at center during injury.

And let's pretend he's not asking for 7 million dollars.

Now let's say Ennis and ROR are your top 2 RWs for a cup contending team facing off against Tampa, Rags, Ducks and Hawks.

Today: Idk maybe?
After we win the cup with ROR and Ennis top 2 rws... I told you so

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 2:34 PM ET
Last year Moulson played in 10 more games than Nash and had 12 more points than Nash.

Disclaimer: In order to make my point please ignore all other seasons

- mattmoulson




You'll fit right in here...

This season

Nash scored more goals than Moulson had points
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 16 @ 2:34 PM ET
"Tim Murray hasn't been one to shy away from big moves, but they've all been for players who are still rather young. Now that the tanking is over, could he make a move for a veteran to help the team win now? Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman said on Calgary's Sportsnet 960 that he wouldn't be surprised to see the Sabres in on a possible trade for Rangers forward Rick Nash.

"The team I think to watch in something like this is a team like Buffalo," Friedman said, as transcribed by Chris Nichols. "They already went out and they got Evander Kane. I could see them being interested in a player like Nash too. Tim's a bit aggressive that way. But again, I'm not 100 percent convinced that one's going to happen.""

http://www.diebytheblade....ding-to-elliotte-friedman


oh and brampton is close to the FNC

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 2:36 PM ET
"Tim Murray hasn't been one to shy away from big moves, but they've all been for players who are still rather young. Now that the tanking is over, could he make a move for a veteran to help the team win now? Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman said on Calgary's Sportsnet 960 that he wouldn't be surprised to see the Sabres in on a possible trade for Rangers forward Rick Nash.

"The team I think to watch in something like this is a team like Buffalo," Friedman said, as transcribed by Chris Nichols. "They already went out and they got Evander Kane. I could see them being interested in a player like Nash too. Tim's a bit aggressive that way. But again, I'm not 100 percent convinced that one's going to happen.""

http://www.diebytheblade....ding-to-elliotte-friedman



oh and brampton is close to the FNC

- homiedclown



Toronto's closer...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 16 @ 2:38 PM ET
Toronto's closer...
- Sabresfan-365

would you rather play with Eichel or Bozak?
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 16 @ 2:38 PM ET


You'll fit right in here...

This season

Nash scored more goals than Moulson had points

- Stripes77


Well yeah but just barely
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 2:39 PM ET
would you rather play with Eichel or Bozak?
- homiedclown



would he rather live in Toronto or Buffalo?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 16 @ 2:39 PM ET
Interesting take from Rags Blog........When asked what "they", obviously not Sather, would want for NASH. 2 suggestions were given so far.

1. Nash wouldn't waive to go to Buffalo
If he did I'd want Eichel


2. Dont think it matters b/c Nash will not be listing Buff. as possible trade destination.

So much consternation for so little possibility.............

"I come from Downtown, Born and ready for you"



- MEBSabresFAN



Their fans are delusional if they think they'd get a guy like Eichel for Nash at this point. I get that Nash has value, but that's a bit extreme.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 16 @ 2:39 PM ET
What would they want for Nash honestly? It'd take more than Pysarenko1 and I think it always comes out to be too much for our taste.

That being said I'd love to have him on our team as a vet who can actually lead the scorers by example. In 3 years he's something like 33 and could hopefully chip in a few goals but not be the main focus
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 2:40 PM ET
Well yeah but just barely
- mattmoulson


To which point??
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 2:41 PM ET
What would they want for Nash honestly? It'd take more than Pysarenko1 and I think it always comes out to be too much for our taste.

That being said I'd love to have him on our team as a vet who can actually lead the scorers by example. In 3 years he's something like 33 and could hopefully chip in a few goals but not be the main focus

- Zschalberg


Zadorov 21st and Compher
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 16 @ 2:41 PM ET
This is the different in opinions. You consider Zadorov a core member others aren't so sure.

Also you listed 3 players out of 23 that have any sort of veteran leadership. That is not a lot.

- Stripes77



I agree, I want to persue Talented Vets, of teams that need Cap Relief, I just don't want to give up as much as others want to. I really think Murray and Pegula like ENNIS's talent level and committment to the SABRES, they truly believe in having guys here who REALLY WANT to be here. I respect that and would only trade ENNIS in a blockbuster deal.

I also don't want to Trade BIg-Z , Pysk, but would be open to offers on Reuwhedal (I like our defense, I would pick up Odyua or Martin and Defense is done for now.)

Wouldn't mind prying Yandle away from the Rangers, would be pricey, but great return. and a need.

I'm ok with Nash with his talent and warts( all players have em') for the right price.

I wouldn't even mind Kessel ( but his TERM is tooooo long)

Evandar Kane was a perfect storm and Murray knocked it out of the Park.

Lets be honest, I would be much less excited about our team, if we still had MYERS , Armia, Lemuix(blow me) Stifford, and whatever else went there,

I'm pyched that MURRAY knew getting a STUD Winger with Age and Power would be a perfect way to welcome Echiel/Rienhart/ or McDavid to the Sabres and he NAILED IT!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 2:42 PM ET
Last year Moulson played in 10 more games than Nash and had 12 more points than Nash.

Disclaimer: In order to make my point please ignore all other seasons

- mattmoulson


"Ignore all variables, look at my small sample size!"

That ain't gonna get you very far round here lol
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 16 @ 2:42 PM ET
Zadorov 21st and Compher
- Stripes77


I'd say that's probably fair, maybe a little low on our end. I'd still be hesitant just because I do like Zads and I want to see what he can really do.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 2:44 PM ET
[quote=TheSabresTaco]Gonna post this again.

Let's pretend I'm a vegan, I don't eat gluten because it's trendy and I like ROR.

And let's say we trade for ROR in fantasy land. A 55 point center.

And let's say we only trade for him if we see him playing wing 95% of the time and fills in at center during injury.

And let's pretend he's not asking for 7 million dollars.

Now let's say Ennis and ROR are your top 2 RWs for a cup contending team facing off against Tampa, Rags, Ducks and Hawks.

Today: Idk maybe?
After we win the cup with ROR and Ennis top 2 rws... I told you so

- mattmoulson


I don't like the look of the roster as them being the top 2, but if they win, I'll buy a ROR jersey and wear it the entire next season, and not vomit on it.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 16 @ 2:44 PM ET
Zadorov 21st and Compher
- Stripes77


They hang up the phone.

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 2:44 PM ET
I'd say that's probably fair, maybe a little low on our end. I'd still be hesitant just because I do like Zads and I want to see what he can really do.
- Zschalberg


I like Zads as well but you gotta give to get.

If Murray made that trade it would tell me he is ready for this team to turn the corner.

Edit: It would also tell me the rest of the league is taking Buffalo as a serious destination if Rick Nash would waive to come here.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 2:46 PM ET
They hang up the phone.
- MEBSabresFAN


Not so sure.

They get a defensemen that can play in the NHL right now who does have a high ceiling.

They get a 1st round pick that they don't have this year.

They get a good 3rd line center prospect

AND they get cap space to sign their RFA's.

You talked about getting talented vets from cap strapped teams. The Rangers are one of those teams.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 16 @ 2:48 PM ET
I like Zads as well but you gotta give to get.

If Murray made that trade it would tell me he is ready for this team to turn the corner.

- Stripes77



I agree with that assessment of Murray's mindset, I don't believe he is that ready yet. So much time before the season begins.

At least we can all have a civil conversation about hockey players and building our team, the nights of watching our horrid team win in spite of our horrible team were draining!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 16 @ 2:49 PM ET
foligno, larsson, pick 21 and compher for nash

MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 16 @ 2:49 PM ET
Not so sure.

They get a defensemen that can play in the NHL right now who does have a high ceiling.

They get a 1st round pick that they don't have this year.

They get a good 3rd line center prospect

AND they get cap space to sign their RFA's.

You talked about getting talented vets from cap strapped teams. The Rangers are one of those teams.

- Stripes77



Well said.....

I would do it if Murray has doubts about Big Z, if his staff see's him near his Ceiling, I'm a no go.

It could get interesting if they include Yandle, I would then open up the box of toys a bit more!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 2:50 PM ET
foligno, larsson, pick 21 and compher for nash
- homiedclown



Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 2:51 PM ET
foligno, larsson, pick 21 and compher for nash
- homiedclown


Hmm...

While I would do that in a heart beat I don't think 2 third liners get it done
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 16 @ 2:52 PM ET
foligno, larsson, pick 21 and compher for nash
- homiedclown



Best Suggestion so far.......


I love Foligno but you have to give to get and if both teams get value back this works for me!

Foligno is the closest player to being part of the "Core" but isn't there yet....and I would have to give up his size/grit/ along with a nicely developing LARSON plus First Round Pick and Compher

Nash should be worth that, and if not we can recover due to our depth at Center.
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