Out of those add ons, maybe Lindros is ahead of Eichel, maybe. Those others wouldn't be though. Tavares and Stamkos were hyped up higher than most of the players you added as well.
- Mentalorgasm5

Every player I added was hyped to the same extent.

Its whether or not people wanna remember the hype.

Out of those add ons, maybe Lindros is ahead of Eichel, maybe. Those others wouldn't be though. Tavares and Stamkos were hyped up higher than most of the players you added as well.
- Mentalorgasm5

Daigle was "The Next Gretzky" if you want I'll show you the Hockey News from that time frame.

Daigle was "The Next Gretzky" if you want I'll show you the Hockey News from that time frame.
- dadeadhead

I know who Daigle is. I am not talking about just hype, I am talking skill. Hard to do now, but if there was a fantasy draft with all the players since 85. Only those select few would have been taken before Eichel.

Trying to erase the memory of what players did, is hard, but I am not the only one who is saying Eichel is a top 5 prospect since 85, several experts convey the same opinion.

I know who Daigle is. I am not talking about just hype, I am talking skill. Hard to do now, but if there was a fantasy draft with all the players since 85. Only those select few would have been taken before Eichel.

Trying to erase the memory of what players did, is hard, but I am not the only one who is saying Eichel is a top 5 prospect since 85, several experts convey the same opinion.
- Mentalorgasm5

And I'm telling you those experts have selective memory.


That isn't a knock to Eichel just a knock against the supposed "Knowitalls".

My old man brought me home the hockey news every time a new one came out back then, I remember what was said about guys going #1. The experts always play it off like they always get it right. I knows when I'm wrong and will admit it. The experts are wrong based on what you're saying.

Not really, because you can't guarantee we would have picked Lintunieni or whoever the Kings pick at 43.
- sbroads24

Daigle was "The Next Gretzky" if you want I'll show you the Hockey News from that time frame.
- dadeadhead

It's amazing how they blew Daigle. I remember when he was supposed to be the next one, I think he was on the level of McDavid, the hype, if I remember correctly.

It's amazing how they blew Daigle. I remember when he was supposed to be the next one, I think he was on the level of McDavid, the hype, if I remember correctly.
- GilPerreault11

You remember correctly.

He was hyped like Gretzky and Super Mario were going to be left in the dust.

It amazes me that the people that are paid to give the knowledge to the people forget history.

You remember correctly.

He was hyped like Gretzky and Super Mario were going to be left in the dust.

It amazes me that the people that are paid to give the knowledge to the people forget history.
- dadeadhead

what happened? Bad work ethic?

what happened? Bad work ethic?
- Sabresfan-365

Had the talent but no heart to wanna play hockey.

Yashin out played him from the get go by a wide margin.

Had the talent but no heart to wanna play hockey.

Yashin out played him from the get go by a wide margin.
- dadeadhead

interesting, was he forced into it or something? i think there's potential for a 30 for 30.

Had the talent but no heart to wanna play hockey.

Yashin out played him from the get go by a wide margin.
- dadeadhead

I wonder how his pre-draft interviews went? What his Junior coaches said about his love for hockey and work ethic? Did they give psych testing? Do they even do that now like the NFL? You don't hear about intelligence scores like you do at the NFL combine.

interesting, was he forced into it or something? i think there's potential for a 30 for 30.
- Sabresfan-365

He was a glory whore. He was the epitome of if talent refuses to work hard. I think he'd rather be an agent than a hockey player. Only reason he played was that he knew he was great at it.

interesting, was he forced into it or something? i think there's potential for a 30 for 30.
- Sabresfan-365

Yashin and he had the same rookie year.

Yashin 79 points
Daigle 51 points

When it came to ROY Ottawa was pushing for voters to give it to Daigle.

Someone with zero knowledge would say Yashin over Daigle.

interesting, was he forced into it or something? i think there's potential for a 30 for 30.
- Sabresfan-365

Definitely

I wonder how his pre-draft interviews went? What his Junior coaches said about his love for hockey and work ethic? Did they give psych testing? Do they even do that now like the NFL? You don't hear about intelligence scores like you do at the NFL combine.
- GilPerreault11

Hockey IQ is a huge assessment tool.

He was a glory whore. He was the epitome of if talent refuses to work hard. I think he'd rather be an agent than a hockey player. Only reason he played was that he knew he was great at it.
- TheSabresTaco

ah one of those....loves the spotlight more than ice, gotcha. Wonder who the next daigle will be.

Hockey IQ is a huge assessment tool.
- dadeadhead

I'm talking about Wonderlic Tests, not hockey IQ which is hugely important but if you are a bumbling idiot tied to neuro/psych evaluation it could show motivation.

ah one of those....loves the spotlight more than ice, gotcha. Wonder who the next daigle will be.
- Sabresfan-365

Patrik Stephan was

Nail Yakupov is.

I'm talking about Wonderlic Tests, not hockey IQ which is hugely important but if you are a bumbling idiot tied to neuro/psych evaluation it could show motivation.
- GilPerreault11

I find IQ tests like wonderlic sad.

Cam Newton has a wonderlic of a baboon, he's a pretty good football player.

ah one of those....loves the spotlight more than ice, gotcha. Wonder who the next daigle will be.
- Sabresfan-365

Tough to say. You've gotta wonder if the interviewing process has vastly improved to hopefully weed some of those guys out.

I find IQ tests like wonderlic sad.

Cam Newton has a wonderlic of a baboon, he's a pretty good football player.
- dadeadhead

Sure taken as a whole but I'm just wondering if there were any red flags in his evaluations. That is one part of a 30 for 30 that I'd be curious about. Interview some scouts/GM's at the time and hear what they have to say.

Tough to say. You've gotta wonder if the interviewing process has vastly improved to hopefully weed some of those guys out.
- TheSabresTaco

It has.

Dan Catenacci says hi.

1st round potential.

Zero brains.

Equals 3rd pick

2013 Aleksander Barkov C Tappara (FIN) Florida Panthers
2012 Ryan Murray D Everett (WHL) Columbus Blue Jackets
2011 Gabriel Landeskog LW Kitchener (OHL) Colorado Avalanche
2010 Tyler Seguin C Plymouth (OHL) Boston Bruins
2009 Victor Hedman D Modo (Swe) Tampa Bay Lightning
2008 Drew Doughty D Guelph Los Angeles Kings
2007 James VanRiemsdyk LW US Under-18 Philadelphia Flyers
2006 Jordan Staal C Peterborough (OHL) Pittsburgh Penguins
2005 Bobby Ryan RW Owen Sound Attack (OHL) Anaheim Ducks
2004 Evgeny Malkin C Magnitogorsk Metallurg (Russia) Pittsburgh Penguins
2003 Eric Staal C Peterborough Petes (OHL) Carolina Hurricanes
2002 Kari Lehtonen G Jokerit Helsinki (FNL) Atlanta Thrashers
2001 Jason Spezza C Windsor Spitfires (OHL) Ottawa Senators
2000 Dany Heatley LW U. of Wisconsin (NCAA) Atlanta Thrashers

last 13 2nd overall picks, where would you rank Reinhart on this list?
- Sabresfan-365

How is it even remotely possible to know where he ranks without seeing how he plays for not just a season, but seasons first?

Unless there is some magical way to automatically wipe the memory of each players performance after they were drafted, this is a totally useless exercise unless there is a crystal ball lying around to consult, or time machine, or a DeLorean.

How is it even remotely possible to know where he ranks without seeing how he plays for not just a season, but seasons first?

Unless there is some magical way to automatically wipe the memory of each players performance after they were drafted, this is a totally useless exercise unless there is a crystal ball lying around to consult, or time machine, or a DeLorean.
- kingcong39

I meant in terms of draft hype...


As in what was thought of him in his draft year vs the others i listed.

In no order but since 1985 you're missing a ton of guys and the hype they had behind them at the time. Like big time either forgetting/don't know.


Hell the hype behind Angelo Esposito the year prior to his draft was out of this world and he dropped like a 2 dollar whore.
- dadeadhead

And what do you know about $2 whores ?

Just curious..

And leave my family out of this...