So be it, go somewhere else. Don't need him for what he'll command.
- TheSabresTaco

But you will take Nash, it makes no sense. Your hatred for ROR is unreal.

I agree.

Risto, Reinhart, Eichel, and Girgensons top that list
- Stripes77

Agreed. Those are definitely on my list of guys that better be in blue and gold when the season starts.

We ran Vanek out of town but are now clambering for Nash?

But you will take Nash, it makes no sense. Your hatred for ROR is unreal.
- SABRES 89

It makes perfect sense.

Nash scored more goals than every single Sabre had points last year except for 1 player.

It's the same reason I would rather have Kessel than ROR.

Nash and Kessel produce and get paid to produce. In this instance you're paying a guy $7 million a year who has never scored 30 in this league. You can talk about it being the going rate and it very well might be but I don't want my team paying him that "going rate"

We ran Vanek out of town but are now clambering for Nash?
- buffalokb

Unreal isn't it, Nash is another one that Vanishes at 8 mill a year

What does it cost though?
Does Nash waive to come here?

It starts with 21 and an A prospect.


Nash - Eichel - Kane

That's a top line.
- ImThatGuy

Ennis, Grigorenko, and 21 would be my guess.

We ran Vanek out of town but are now clambering for Nash?
- buffalokb

Two completely different players

Last time I checked, the great Ryan O'Reilly has just two playoff appearances in his career, and both were first round exits.

As long as playoff success is a measuring stick on here.

Two completely different players
- jochfr

Agreed, but people have their opinions

Who pissed in your cheerios this morning?
- HonkFortheGoose

You just did..........

Agreed, but people have their opinions
- Stripes77

Agreed

It makes perfect sense.

Nash scored more goals than every single Sabre had points last year except for 1 player.

It's the same reason I would rather have Kessel than ROR.

Nash and Kessel produce and get paid to produce. In this instance you're paying a guy $7 million a year who has never scored 30 in this league. You can talk about it being the going rate and it very well might be but I don't want my team paying him that "going rate"
- Stripes77

What has Nash done for the Rangers or the Jackets ? NOTHING. ROR or a player of his age is what Murray is looking for. Your team Huh

Everyone wants a cup but doesn't want to pay players

Two completely different players
- jochfr

Not really, both have Tee times

Not really, both have Tee times
- SABRES 89

I concur with 89.

I wouldn't mind ROR because of his versatility, and owning his PRIME years.
I wouldn't deminish our defense to get him.

I wouldn't trade Tyler Ennis, his age, his production, for NASH.

You put ENNIS with a top center or a very good one, he gets 30/30 at half of NASH's Cap and his motor is ALWAYS ON!

But you will take Nash, it makes no sense. Your hatred for ROR is unreal.
- SABRES 89

I don't need to explain myself again regarding Dippy. Nash would serve this team 10x better than him. Like Stripes has said twice now. Neither do it for it, but if I'm picking one or the other, Nash 8 days a week.

We ran Vanek out of town but are now clambering for Nash?
- buffalokb

Nash is much, much better than Thomas Vanek

Nash is much, much better than Thomas Vanek
- sbroads24

Something that has also been beaten to death.

What has Nash done for the Rangers or the Jackets ? NOTHING. ROR or a player of his age is what Murray is looking for. Your team Huh

Everyone wants a cup but doesn't want to pay players
- SABRES 89

We've discussed this several times.

ROR is of age. Yes. ROR is not of need.

I'm not here to soap box the need to trade for Nash. The discussion has apparently turned into one or the other, and I pick Nash because ROR does not serve this team's needs.

Nash is much, much better than Thomas Vanek
- sbroads24

Is there another statistical stat category I missed??? G/A/S%/ muchmuch/ ???

Not really, both have Tee times
- SABRES 89

Really.

I guess we should throw Tavares and Ovechkin into this group too.

I don't need to explain myself again regarding Dippy. Nash would serve this team 10x better than him. Like Stripes has said twice now. Neither do it for it, but if I'm picking one or the other, Nash 8 days a week.
- TheSabresTaco

ROR plays a 200 foot game and is just starting to enter his prime.

Nash plays a 200 foot game and scores goals but is on the exit route of his prime.


Just food for thought.

ROR plays a 200 foot game and is just starting to enter his prime.

Nash plays a 200 foot game and scores goals but is on the exit route of his prime.


Just food for thought.
- dadeadhead

Oh yeah. I know the pros and cons. But what it boils down for me is this:

7 million dollar, 50-55 point play making center. Done.

How about Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhart, who are projected to exceed those numbers. Look at me, I just saved a bullpoop contract and a bullpoop attitude from entering our organization, while (likely) trading for someone of use, like a scoring winger!

We've discussed this several times.

ROR is of age. Yes. ROR is not of need.

I'm not here to soap box the need to trade for Nash. The discussion has apparently turned into one or the other, and I pick Nash because ROR does not serve this team's needs.
- TheSabresTaco

Thats the conumdrum: ROR isn't a NEED but is versitile with age and ability.

Nash is a need but doesn't have age, will be helpful during our two development years rather than our Playoff push years. Nash is better than Ennis but Ennis is part of our core becuase of his age and his effort/cap ramifications. Oh and we get him for FREE

ROR plays a 200 foot game and is just starting to enter his prime.

Nash plays a 200 foot game and scores goals but is on the exit route of his prime.


Just food for thought.
- dadeadhead

Ryan O'Reilly inflated his own value way too much. It's a good move for himself personally, because he was able to pull it off, but the amount of assets that you would have to give up plus the contract you would have to sign him for just doesn't do it for me.

Plus, Rick Nash would potentially only be on the books for 3 more years. If he wears out his welcome, you can easily trade him (NMC doesn't bother me because, as we've seen, teams have been able to make it relatively worthless) or even just let him walk without too many consequences.

ROR plays a 200 foot game and is just starting to enter his prime.

Nash plays a 200 foot game and scores goals but is on the exit route of his prime.


Just food for thought.
- dadeadhead

YEP........Truth