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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Ramp-up to the 2015 NHL Draft Pt. 2--The d-pipeline
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 1:49 PM ET
New Jersey did it when they acquired Schneider and the fans seemed pretty happy.
- CaptainRivet

Exactly, its something that would be femaled dogged about by fans and forgotten a week later. Its going to most likely e a top 10 pick so its not like we would be getting back a bag of pucks
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 12 @ 1:49 PM ET
New Jersey did it when they acquired Schneider and the fans seemed pretty happy.
- CaptainRivet



Right but they did it at the draft, not 1 year before. Don't want to give up a pick thinking you won't be bottom 5 then a year later at your own draft your fans have to watch the other team pick the better player.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 12 @ 1:55 PM ET
I completely disagree. I think Terry Pegula is letting the hockey guys do there thing, but trading next year's 1st is where he would step in. No owner would allow that to happen.
- adambuffalo


Why?
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 12 @ 1:55 PM ET
Right but they did it at the draft, not 1 year before. Don't want to give up a pick thinking you won't be bottom 5 then a year later at your own draft your fans have to watch the other team pick the better player.
- Sabresfan-365

But if you're trading a potential top 5 pick, you'll be getting a damn good player in return. I'm sure most fans won't forget that or mind that.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 1:59 PM ET
But if you're trading a potential top 5 pick, you'll be getting a damn good player in return. I'm sure most fans won't forget that or mind that.
- CaptainRivet


Exactly, Id rather trade a potential top 5 pick than wait and try to deal the 12th pick overal. The most value for that pick is right now.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 12 @ 1:59 PM ET
Right but they did it at the draft, not 1 year before. Don't want to give up a pick thinking you won't be bottom 5 then a year later at your own draft your fans have to watch the other team pick the better player.
- Sabresfan-365



Top 5 protect it.

Make it a 2017 1st and 2016 3rd if it's top 5 in 2016.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 12 @ 2:00 PM ET
Exactly, its something that would be femaled dogged about by fans and forgotten a week later. Its going to most likely e a top 10 pick so its not like we would be getting back a bag of pucks
- hubie

It's more about the spectacle of the event anyway, in my opinion. The draft pick would just be a cherry on top.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:02 PM ET
Alternatively, Trade #21, 31 and 51 for around #10 or 11 and:

#10 or 11 Werenski or Zboril

- turbo044


How much more would it cost to get up to #8 and take Provorov?

Might be worth it.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:03 PM ET
Top 5 protect it.

Make it a 2017 1st and 2016 3rd if it's top 5 in 2016.

- dadeadhead


That is the best way to go and undoubtedly what Murray would attempt to do.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:03 PM ET
It's more about the spectacle of the event anyway, in my opinion. The draft pick would just be a cherry on top.
- CaptainRivet


100% agree, not to mention next years draft has a lot of Euros. So most of the early picks will be guys I havent watched all that much, except for say the World Jrs
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:03 PM ET
How much more would it cost to get up to #8 and take Provorov?

Might be worth it.

- kingcong39

Id think more than Id like to give up. We arent hurting for back end help. Feel like he waould sit around in the minors longer than he needs to be
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 12 @ 2:11 PM ET
100% agree, not to mention next years draft has a lot of Euros. So most of the early picks will be guys I havent watched all that much, except for say the World Jrs
- hubie

Your spelling has been outstanding today, hubie. I award you a gold star.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 12 @ 2:12 PM ET
Id think more than Id like to give up. We arent hurting for back end help. Feel like he waould sit around in the minors longer than he needs to be
- hubie

aaaaaand gold star revoked.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
aaaaaand gold star revoked.
- CaptainRivet


I bet you are profiling me, I think you can toss out Indian decent
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 12 @ 2:15 PM ET
aaaaaand gold star revoked.
- CaptainRivet



Storm coming in quick
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 12 @ 2:17 PM ET

I bet you are profiling me, I think you can toss out Indian decent

- hubie

It's 2015, I don't judge
bigpoppa720
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 08.07.2012

Jun 12 @ 2:19 PM ET
#1. No thank you. There is no place for Kessel here. We don't need someone like him on a young rebuilding team to set a bad example for our young guys.

#2 I'd do that

#3 Don't need either of those guys for the amount they will demand in FA. They would not line up in our time frame.

- adambuffalo


I completely understand your response on Kessel idea. I just think the same of Hodgson and rather than buy him out, get a #1 RW for him at manageable cost by ridding Hodgson's contract while taking off some on the back end. Wont happen anyway. #3 would only be if Pysyk is traded and signing one allows more time to not rush McCabe and takes some pressure off of Risto and Z coming into the season. Good points though
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 12 @ 2:23 PM ET
How much more would it cost to get up to #8 and take Provorov?

Might be worth it.

- kingcong39


Don't think #21, 31 and 51 gets you in the top 10, nor do I think there will be a lot of teams looking to trade out of there??
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:28 PM ET
Don't think #21, 31 and 51 gets you in the top 10, nor do I think there will be a lot of teams looking to trade out of there??
- turbo044


Maybe CLB, but I think they would want a NHL body to get out of that spot
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:54 PM ET
Maybe CLB, but I think they would want a NHL body to get out of that spot
- hubie


What about Marcus plus 21 for cbus pick? Then draft rantanen there.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:56 PM ET
On Nash...

I am surprised by this, but it is looking more and more like Rick Nash will be moving on. Detroit also has interest here, along with the Wild and Vancouver....keep an eye on Buffalo with Nash I was told.


E8

Nash is the greatest player in the league besides Troy Brouwer.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:57 PM ET
E8

Nash is the greatest player in the league besides Troy Brouwer.

- TheSabresTaco

EK said it so........................... he's not coming to Buffalo.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 3:01 PM ET
What about Marcus plus 21 for cbus pick? Then draft rantanen there.
- adambuffalo

At that point id like to screw over COl who is intersested in Zacha
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:01 PM ET
But if you're trading a potential top 5 pick, you'll be getting a damn good player in return. I'm sure most fans won't forget that or mind that.
- CaptainRivet



Problem is there's no one available that would fit that category. Any player on the market right now acquired using that pick would be a big overpayment from us.

By comparison, the first seguin deal got the leafs an incredible goal scorer and even that deal was scrutinized for a half decade.

The impression i got from the WGR guys after their interview with Murray is that it's unlikely we see that kind of deal this summer.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:08 PM ET
Problem is there's no one available that would fit that category. Any player on the market right now acquired using that pick would be a big overpayment from us.

By comparison, the first seguin deal got the leafs an incredible goal scorer and even that deal was scrutinized for a half decade.

The impression i got from the WGR guys after their interview with Murray is that it's unlikely we see that kind of deal this summer.

- Sabresfan-365



I am almost okay with seeing what this roster can do without any major free agent or trade addition.

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