This is essentially why I wouldn't do it. It would hurt us on D and it wouldn't even be filling a position of need since we need help at RW and not so much LW. I'd be hesitant of giving up any assets for him at all because of that to be honest. I would much rather take what we have and use it to get a guy that fills that need.
- HonkFortheGoose

I was never suggesting the Sabres should do it, we were just discussing the Value and level of Development in DROUIN vs. RISTO.

RISTO has a higher Value than DROUIN

This is essentially why I wouldn't do it. It would hurt us on D and it wouldn't even be filling a position of need since we need help at RW and not so much LW. I'd be hesitant of giving up any assets for him at all because of that to be honest. I would much rather take what we have and use it to get a guy that fills that need.
- HonkFortheGoose

I think Risto is basically untouchable unless it was for a package that will never happen like Mcdavid or something, certainly not for the likes of Drouin.

RISTO was said to be not good enough to be in the TOP 50 NHL Defensemen and he would 't have MADE an NHL ROSTOR spot on ANY OTHER TEAM!!!
- MEBSabresFAN

Again not what I said. I said Risto would have been in the AHL on almost any other team this year. But keep making stuff up.

Shattenkirk
Giordano
Burns
Letang
Weber
Karlsson
Byfuglien
Yandle
Subban
Vatanen
Brodie
Hedman
Pietrangelo
Doughty
Carlson
OEL
Kronwall
Boychuk
Suter
Josi
Markov
McDonagh
Staal
Seabrook
Franson
Krug
Hamilton
Wideman
Enstrom
Faulk
Leddy
Ekblad
Green
Trouba
Lindholm
Niskanen
J Johnson
E Johnson
Keith
Brodie
Jones


That is 40 some defense men, without me even looking at other teams rosters. Will risto one day be better than some of them, I sure hope so, but dont see here and tell me Risto is a top 15, or as you put it earlier, in EVERY GMs mind almost a top 15 defensemen.

[quote=ImNoTroll]Yes, thats it, I am trolling, yet no one agrees with you.



I would love to know how many on here currently think RISTO would not have made an NHL ROSTER spot for ANY OTHER TEAM this year.........

Or maybe it/they go above your head?
- GilPerreault11

Thats definitely not it. Especially since what he said was nothing at all related to the argument.

Not to mention my reflexes are too fast, nothing goes over my head.

[quote=ImNoTroll]Yes, thats it, I am trolling, yet no one agrees with you.



I would love to know how many on here currently think RISTO would not have made an NHL ROSTER spot for ANY OTHER TEAM this year.........




- MEBSabresFAN

Again thats not what I said. Again keep making things up, go get that tyler johnson and Drouin for risto trade locked up.

Again not what I said. I said Risto would have been in the AHL on almost any other team this year. But keep making stuff up.




That is 40 some defense men, without me even looking at other teams rosters. Will risto one day be better than some of them, I sure hope so, but dont see here and tell me Risto is a top 15, or as you put it earlier, in EVERY GMs mind almost a top 15 defensemen.
- ImNoTroll

I NEVER SAID HE WAS TOP 15....

I said, "I disagree that he has "A LONG WAY TO GO" to get there....... :

Is that what all the kids do? Update their locations?

Again thats not what I said. Again keep making things up, go get that tyler johnson and Drouin for risto trade locked up.
- ImNoTroll

Ok, What did you say? So the record can show your true and accurate statement.

Please continue......

I NEVER SAID HE WAS TOP 15....

I said, "I disagree that he has "A LONG WAY TO GO" to get there....... :
- MEBSabresFAN

Your direct quote when talking about Risto says otherwise

Are you suggesting that the 15 Top Number #1 Defensemen with muti-faceted skill set are not valued at Double that of a Strong Winger?
- MEBSabresFAN

and then there is this quote

Name the 15 past the TOP 15 that are already better than he is, DROP MIC
- MEBSabresFAN

as saying someone couldnt name 15 defensemen better than Risto.

Is that what all the kids do? Update their locations?
- ImNoTroll

Update my location????

Coming from a newbie

Update my location????

Coming from a newbie
- MEBSabresFAN

Yea this is my only handle on hockeybuzz.

Your direct quote when talking about Risto says otherwise
- ImNoTroll

Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired "Oh Mr. Speedy, nothing Gets by ME"

Where does it include RISTO in that paragraph???? Please read over carefully.

The context of that paragraph was well expalined as relating to the VALUE of SAID POSITION.

Again not what I said. I said Risto would have been in the AHL on almost any other team this year. But keep making stuff up.

Shattenkirk
Giordano
Burns
Letang
Weber
Karlsson
Byfuglien
Yandle
Subban
Vatanen
Brodie
Hedman
Pietrangelo
Doughty
Carlson
OEL
Kronwall
Boychuk
Suter
Josi
Markov
McDonagh
Staal
Seabrook
Franson
Krug
Hamilton
Wideman
Enstrom
Faulk
Leddy
Ekblad
Green
Trouba
Lindholm
Niskanen
J Johnson
E Johnson
Keith
Brodie
Jones


That is 40 some defense men, without me even looking at other teams rosters. Will risto one day be better than some of them, I sure hope so, but dont see here and tell me Risto is a top 15, or as you put it earlier, in EVERY GMs mind almost a top 15 defensemen.
- ImNoTroll

The Rangers jaws would drop if TM offered Risto for one trick 29 year old, 1 year left on his contract Yandle.

Staal, Franson, Widerman, Krug, Green? Really??
Brodie, Leddy, Markov is older than dirt. There are a lot more on that list

You are selling Risto far short on ability and potential and value around the league.

Yea this is my only handle on hockeybuzz.
- ImNoTroll

And this is and has been my only "handle" on HockeyBuzz.....

Please speak coherently

Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired "Oh Mr. Speedy, nothing Gets by ME"

Where does it include RISTO in that paragraph???? Please read over carefully.

The context of that paragraph was well expalined as relating to the VALUE of SAID POSITION.
- MEBSabresFAN

Go read what you Quoted. You are referring to Risto, and now you are sitting here, typing, and pretending you weren't is laughable.

And this is and has been my only "handle" on HockeyBuzz.....

Please speak coherently
- MEBSabresFAN

That is what most would call sarcasm, as in this isnt my only handle on HockeyBuzz...

Do I need to keep connecting the dots for you?

Yea this is my only handle on hockeybuzz.
- ImNoTroll

I really don't know where this "combative" nature comes from, we are all Sabres fans on a hockey blog to share opinions and ideas with. Its ok to have Philosophical differences.

No real need to tell posters to "GO POST ON EK's BLOG and GET LAUGHED AT"

Its just childish........(in my humble opinion)

That is what most would call sarcasm, as in this isnt my only handle on HockeyBuzz...

Do I need to keep connecting the dots for you?
- ImNoTroll

Yes, Master Senai, please inform your humble student for I am honored by your knowledge and wisdom........

Please Continue........

The Rangers jaws would drop if TM offered Risto for one trick 29 year old, 1 year left on his contract Yandle.

Staal, Franson, Widerman, Krug, Green? Really??
Brodie, Leddy, Markov is older than dirt. There are a lot more on that list

You are selling Risto far short on ability and potential and value around the league.
- GilPerreault11

Simply put, Risto is not better than those dman. Does he have the potential to be, absolutely, but again, MEBSabresFAN said RISTO is a TOP 15 dman. Which he isn't, nor did he resemble anything close to that last year. He has a long way to go to reach that status.

And no where did I say I would trade Risto for all those players, but merely giving a list of dman who have been, and did play better than Risto this year.

So go ahead and "hahah" and "lol" but you and MEB need to read more, post less, or at the bare minimum read the full context of a post before commenting on it.

I really don't know where this "combative" nature comes from, we are all Sabres fans on a hockey blog to share opinions and ideas with. Its ok to have Philosophical differences.

No real need to tell posters to "GO POST ON EK's BLOG and GET LAUGHED AT"

Its just childish........(in my humble opinion)
- MEBSabresFAN

Go post your value of Risto as equal to Drouin and Johnson in any other forum. We'll see who gets laughed at.

Or go post how Risto is a borderline top 15 defense men in every GMs mind, like you did over here.

When I see nonsense posted, I like to educate, simple as that.

Simply put, Risto is not better than those dman. Does he have the potential to be, absolutely, but again, MEBSabresFAN said RISTO is a TOP 15 dman. Which he isn't, nor did he resemble anything close to that last year. He has a long way to go to reach that status.

And no where did I say I would trade Risto for all those players, but merely giving a list of dman who have been, and did play better than Risto this year.

So go ahead and "hahah" and "lol" but you and MEB need to read more, post less, or at the bare minimum read the full context of a post before commenting on it.
- ImNoTroll

WOW......I NEVER SAID RISTO WAS a TOP 15 D , Please copy in paste it if you can, YOU CAN"T, because I NEVER SAID that, I Stated I didn't agree that "HE HAS A LONG WAY TO GO" to get there.........Wow....talk about not comprehending a concept......

Go post your value of Risto as equal to Drouin and Johnson in any other forum. We'll see who gets laughed at.

Or go post how Risto is a borderline top 15 defense men in every GMs mind, like you did over here.

When I see nonsense posted, I like to educate, simple as that.
- ImNoTroll

LMOA.......

You acutally BELIEVE YOURSELF......

Go post your value of Risto as equal to Drouin and Johnson in any other forum. We'll see who gets laughed at.

Or go post how Risto is a borderline top 15 defense men in every GMs mind, like you did over here.

When I see nonsense posted, I like to educate, simple as that.
- ImNoTroll

Suggesting RISTO "Couldn't make ALMOST any other NHL Teams Roster this year is "LAUGHABLE"

Suggesting that there are 50 current NHL Defensemen that are Better/or Hold a higher market value....... Those are the two postings that NEED TO BE EDUCATED..........my little grasshopper!

Suggesting RISTO "Couldn't make ALMOST any other NHL Teams Roster this year is "LAUGHABLE"

Suggesting that there are 50 current NHL Defensemen that are Better/or Hold a higher market value....... Those are the two postings that NEED TO BE EDUCATED..........my little grasshopper!


- MEBSabresFAN

And now its or, you keep adding more BS in your post, I never once said that

And go look at the Blackshawks forum page 13 and 14, or the Leafs forum page 30 and 31, they can educate you on Ristos value.