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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Ramp-up to the 2015 NHL Draft Pt. 2--The d-pipeline
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:06 PM ET
his ass is so traded. I'd say NJ is the front runner.
- Sabresfan-365

you told me they were going to develop him some more.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 13 @ 6:09 PM ET
The Buffalo Sabres are waiting to see if there's validity to the speculation that soon-to-be restricted free agent Mikhail Grigorenko is signing a contract in the KHL.
Grigorenko, 21, is coming out of his three-year, entry-level contract with the Sabres, having played 25 NHL games this past season and 68 over the last three seasons. The Sabres initially indicated to the player at season's end they wanted to re-sign him but, for now anyway, were not prepared to give him a one-way contract.
There has since been talk Grigorenko will opt to return home to Russia and take a more lucrative offer in the KHL rather than contest for a spot on the Sabres on a two-way contract next season.

http://www.tsn.ca/mckenzi...-trades-and-more-1.307528

- GilPerreault11


Bye Bye.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 13 @ 6:10 PM ET
Someone on another sight said his parents both live in Quebec now so if he goes back to Russia it probably won't be for long. 2 years maybe.

Perhaps his agent is getting the word out that he may sign with the KHL because the Sabres are still offering a 2 way deal and wants to get the Sabres to move on a trade.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 13 @ 6:15 PM ET
I'm not sure why there is a bg deal with the one way and two way deal since he'd have to clear waivers to get sent down to Rochester which he never would. Just give him the one way deal.
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:16 PM ET
Someone on another sight said his parents both live in Quebec now so if he goes back to Russia it probably won't be for long. 2 years maybe.

Perhaps his agent is getting the word out that he may sign with the KHL because the Sabres are still offering a 2 way deal and wants to get the Sabres to move on a trade.

- GilPerreault11


As if losing his waiver exemption didnt hurt his value enough.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:21 PM ET
you told me they were going to develop him some more.
- manvanfan



re-read, someone else said that
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:23 PM ET
You don't think that Kolvachuk (sp?) thing might sour them on the KHL threat?
- jochfr


i dont think he actually wants to go there, but hed rather get playing time there than benched here. if hes dealt to a team that gives him the minutes i bet re-signs
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:23 PM ET
Someone on another sight said his parents both live in Quebec now so if he goes back to Russia it probably won't be for long. 2 years maybe.

Perhaps his agent is getting the word out that he may sign with the KHL because the Sabres are still offering a 2 way deal and wants to get the Sabres to move on a trade.

- GilPerreault11

Paul Hamilton thinks the Sabres are going to waive him. I doubt that happens but I think Grigo is getting a little fed up with the Sabres not committing to his development
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:25 PM ET
re-read, someone else said that
- Sabresfan-365

you're right! I apologize. (frank) him then. I also gave a really good reason for you to trade for bieska if you hadn't seen it
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:25 PM ET
Paul Hamilton thinks the Sabres are going to waive him. I doubt that happens but I think Grigo is getting a little fed up with the Sabres not committing to his development
- sbroads24

They just messed it up. He should have went to junior for 2 years instead of wasting his time in the nhl.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 13 @ 6:25 PM ET
Paul Hamilton thinks the Sabres are going to waive him. I doubt that happens but I think Grigo is getting a little fed up with the Sabres not committing to his development
- sbroads24

Or him not developing.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:27 PM ET
Paul Hamilton thinks the Sabres are going to waive him. I doubt that happens but I think Grigo is getting a little fed up with the Sabres not committing to his development
- sbroads24


This anvil lands on Darcy's head only. He pressured Lindy to keep him here in the short season, sent him back too late. Then did it again.

This is the absolute correct way to screw up a players development.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:30 PM ET
Or him not developing.
- SABRES 89

It's both IMO.

If he would have stayed in Juniors, stayed in Rochester, he'd still be considered a very good prospect. He has produced in Rochester and improved, it's just up to him to take the next step, and up to the Sabres to finally put him in a position to
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:31 PM ET
Or him not developing.
- SABRES 89


They way he played the last half of the season is him finally being developed correctly. If this was done right this would only be he 2nd year on his ELC. He would be proving he belongs in this league but Darcy screwed it up.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:32 PM ET
This anvil lands on Darcy's head only. He pressured Lindy to keep him here in the short season, sent him back too late. Then did it again.

This is the absolute correct way to screw up a players development.

- Stripes77

Yep. This is purely on Darcy.

I'm fine with drafting him, considering we got Girgensons 2 picks later, but he was handled so poorly
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:34 PM ET
Yep. This is purely on Darcy.

I'm fine with drafting him, considering we got Girgensons 2 picks later, but he was handled so poorly

- sbroads24


People see how Girgensons was able to make the transition but he plays a completely different game. It didn't take a grizzled NHL veteran scout to see Girgorenko didn't have the footwork or speed to make the jump right away to the show.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:39 PM ET
People see how Girgensons was able to make the transition but he plays a completely different game. It didn't take a grizzled NHL veteran scout to see Girgorenko didn't have the footwork or speed to make the jump right away to the show.
- Stripes77

Which is why I have to laugh at the notion that all good players should be ready to go at 18,19 years old. There are a ton of guys that don't hit their stride until 22-23. Especially if they are in a bad situation.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
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Jun 13 @ 6:41 PM ET
Which is why I have to laugh at the notion that all good players should be ready to go at 18,19 years old. There are a ton of guys that don't hit their stride until 22-23. Especially if they are in a bad situation.
- sbroads24


It all depends on each individual player.

I do think Reinhart will be ready this season, but with the situation the team was in last year, they players he was playing with and the coach putting him in not the best situations, returning him to juniors was the smart thing to do.

Eichel is ready if he turns pro.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:43 PM ET
It's both IMO.

If he would have stayed in Juniors, stayed in Rochester, he'd still be considered a very good prospect. He has produced in Rochester and improved, it's just up to him to take the next step, and up to the Sabres to finally put him in a position to

- sbroads24


At the time they didn't envision tanking for another centre so as far as the future was concerned it was really just him and girgensons. I remember that 2013 team was planning on a playoff spot, only when poop really hit the fan did we commit to the rebuild.

Mishandling him probably killed a lot of his trade value, but once the rebuild began even if they handled him right i think he still would've been on the outside looking in.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:45 PM ET
It all depends on each individual player.

I do think Reinhart will be ready this season, but with the situation the team was in last year, they players he was playing with and the coach putting him in not the best situations, returning him to juniors was the smart thing to do.

Eichel is ready if he turns pro.

- Stripes77

For a comparable to Reinhart, Ryan Johansen didn't impress until his 3rd pro year
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:49 PM ET
For a comparable to Reinhart, Ryan Johansen didn't impress until his 3rd pro year
- sbroads24


True but Johnasen was as touted as Reinhart. Even so I think Reinhart will show more this year
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 13 @ 7:00 PM ET
They way he played the last half of the season is him finally being developed correctly. If this was done right this would only be he 2nd year on his ELC. He would be proving he belongs in this league but Darcy screwed it up.
- Stripes77

17 years of Darcy screwing up
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 13 @ 7:06 PM ET
Reporting from 60 miles south of the arena in Tampa

It's beautiful
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 13 @ 7:06 PM ET
17 years of Darcy screwing up
- SABRES 89

He stinks
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 13 @ 7:09 PM ET
Reporting from 60 miles south of the arena in Tampa

It's beautiful

- homiedclown


Reporting from Orlando, I concur!
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