False logic.

Look at the numbers Frenchie posted - Bozak was getting easier draws than Kadri.
- Atomic Wedgie

No he wasn't. What that stat fails to take into account is Kadri padding his opponents stats.

he can do that at wing as well..
never said bozak is better than kadri.
I'm just saying Bozak is a guy you want to keep as a #3C for crucial faceoffs, and special teams
- MaximusAurelius

Not worth 4.2 at all

Basically a Steckel or Mcclement

Not the point. COL are not looking to add draft picks or trade up. They already have plenty of youngs players. They need help on the blue line now, not 3 years from now.
- fidopro

So getting nhl player doesn't do that?

Earlier in the year the Caps were interested in Bozak so it was said, package the 2 loverboys together...

well some of you guys think that Carolina is trying to get rid of the 5th like it's a diseased animal
- DoubleDown

How's that?

And then you draft Hanifin to replace Rielly?
- Pecafan Fan

Apparently. I am not a fan of trading rielly in the least. I think he is the real deal for many yrs.

Corsi Relative: -4.3
– A Corsi relative score of -4.3 indicates that the Toronto Maple Leafs get 4.3 LESS shot attempts than their opponents when he is on the ice (60 minute measurement) as opposed to when he is off the ice.
– This number ranks Tyler Bozak as the worst Maple Leafs centerman. One can normally argue that Bozak is likely facing the opponents top line but Nazem Kadri has actually been deployed in that role, as evidenced by their quality of competiton:
Nazem Kadri: 0.706 Corsi Rel QoC
Tyler Bozak: 0.471 Corsi Rel QoC

Relative Quality of Competition: 0.471
– Tyler Bozak has the second highest QoC Rel amongst Maple Leafs C, indicating that he is playing against the opposing teams second best lines.
– This is concerning given Bozak’s -31 rating on the season, especially when we take into consideration the fact that Kadri is playing against the oppositions top line and is only a -7.
– Bozak’s possession statistics (-4.3 Corsi Rel) indicate that he is regularly being outmatched by a teams second line. If this continues, that cap hit is going to look much worse in the coming years.

On/Off Ice +/-: -1.63
On Ice +/- per 60 Minutes: -1.71
Off Ice +/- per 60 Minutes: -0.08
– The Toronto Maple Leafs even strength +/- worsened by 1.63 goals per 60 minutes when Tyler Bozak was on the ice as opposed to when he was not.
– Coupling this with the fact that he was playing against the opponents second line, it begins to paint a scary picture about his two-way capabilities.
- AdamFrench

This reinforces what is seen on the ice.

Earlier in the year the Caps were interested in Bozak so it was said, package the 2 loverboys together...
- aminnes

For what in return?

Kadri is about 45-46%, and Bozak 53 (had one bad season below 50%, rest all 53%+).
Bozak took around 1700 faceoff last year.
that's about 150 wins difference between both of them (based on the 1700).
that's about 2-4 goal difference. (4 when on special teams, 2 in 'average situations').
1 goal difference is 1/3 point in NHL standings.

basically, the difference between Bozak and Kadri taking those faceoffs is 1 point per season.

As a direct individual statistic, that's quite an impact.
- MaximusAurelius

No.

relax. we're not talking about Nik Lidstrom or Scott Neidermayer here.
- DoubleDown

relax. we're talking about trading the best prospect defenseman and possible future captain of our team, and could hanifin possibly be better than him, worthy of trading him for the pick

he can do that at wing as well..
never said bozak is better than kadri.
I'm just saying Bozak is a guy you want to keep as a #3C for crucial faceoffs, and special teams
- MaximusAurelius

(frank) Bozak!

Just my opinion.

And then you draft Hanifin to replace Rielly?
- Pecafan Fan

Makes no sense.

You also have to factor in that the person with 48% is going to be facing weaker centres. While the one with 52% is going to face stronger ones.

Plus that 4% over the season can mean the difference between getting hemmed in your zone vs hemming the other team in their zone.
- KesselRules

Except that's isn't the case. Kari faced more #1 c than Bozak

Makes no sense.
- burn

Exactly.

relax. we're talking about trading the best prospect defenseman and possible future captain of our team, and could hanifin possibly be better than him, worthy of trading him for the pick
- jimi james

you insulted the guy for bringing up the possibility of Rielly being dealt which was silly.

Except that's isn't the case. Kari faced more #1 c than Bozak
- burn

Scroll up and look at my comments after disproving that stat.

he can do that at wing as well..
never said bozak is better than kadri.
I'm just saying Bozak is a guy you want to keep as a #3C for crucial faceoffs, and special teams
- MaximusAurelius

The idea that you think Bozak is an asset on the powerplay puzzles me.

Kadri's ability to draw penalties is worth 9+ goals

http://www.tsn.ca/drawing...luable-nhl-skill-1.192784

thats worth noting
- senstroll

But think of the face offs.

I cant fricken wait to see what our team looks like on opening day. I don't even care if we finish dead last as long as theres some young likeable players finally in the system. I never wanted a summer to blow by so fast before.

you insulted the guy for bringing up the possibility of Rielly being dealt which was silly.
- DoubleDown

fk off I didnt insult anybody except you...right now

he can do that at wing as well..
never said bozak is better than kadri.
I'm just saying Bozak is a guy you want to keep as a #3C for crucial faceoffs, and special teams
- MaximusAurelius

No he's not. The difference in face offs is far to small to justify him being out on the ice being a drain everywhere else.

No he wasn't. What that stat fails to take into account is Kadri padding his opponents stats.
- KesselRules

Yes he was. He was routinely facing the likes of zetterburg while bozak face the 2nd or 3rd guy.

No he's not. The difference in face offs is far to small to justify him being out on the ice being a drain everywhere else.
- burn

Seriously stop saying this. It's not supported by facts.

Yes he was. He was routinely facing the likes of zetterburg while bozak face the 2nd or 3rd guy.
- burn

Are you dense?

http://faceoffs.net/player/nazem-kadri
http://faceoffs.net/player/tyler-bozak

Here's stats that ignores Kadri padding his opponents stats and Bozaks decreasing his opponents.

Scroll up and look at my comments after disproving that stat.
- KesselRules

Kari faced top lines more than bozak. Fact.