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Newfinator81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR for Bailey, Kulemin, and maybe a 2nd - mr.sir
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 11 @ 12:08 AM ET
I just hope he doesn't pass it down to his children.
- Dangles13


Sometimes it skips a generation. I mean my dad is 5'7, while I'm 6'2. So there is a chance for them,
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Jun 11 @ 3:19 AM ET
Sometimes it skips a generation. I mean my dad is 5'7, while I'm 6'2. So there is a chance for them,
- Newfinator81

I'm 6'5 245 of power forward brian leetch's brothers worst nightmare

nice alliteration


what a (frank)ing joke
13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 11 @ 4:05 AM ET
O'rielly would be a bad move at this point. Just stick with the rebuild, getting ROR would be the same kinda shortcut move they did with getting kessel and phaneuf in the first place. Any move involving Kessel or Phaneuf should only involve picks, prospect, or roster players on their entry level deal. Acquiring ROR then paying him 7mill on a long term deal would be a disaster.
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jun 11 @ 4:31 AM ET
O'rielly would be a bad move at this point. Just stick with the rebuild, getting ROR would be the same kinda shortcut move they did with getting kessel and phaneuf in the first place. Any move involving Kessel or Phaneuf should only involve picks, prospect, or roster players on their entry level deal. Acquiring ROR then paying him 7mill on a long term deal would be a disaster.
- 13sundin13


agreed.plus 7 million is a lot of money for a guy who has only topped 20 goals once, including juniors. Guy would be a great 2nd line center at 5-5.5 million, but asking for 7-7.5 on a long term deal? yikes!

also the leafs are absolutely in no position to be giving up major assets for a pending UFA who has been a nightmare to sign every time his contract expired.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jun 11 @ 6:38 AM ET
Here's your price:

4th OVR + Kadri

You'll get:
10th OVR + O'Reilly
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 11 @ 6:52 AM ET
Here's your price:

4th OVR + Kadri

You'll get:
10th OVR + O'Reilly

- archromat



Definitely not
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 11 @ 6:52 AM ET
You know who is the same age as Phuil as will "Fall off a Cliff" soon? Milan Lucic.
- RogerRoeper


I'd say Lucic's fall as already started.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 11 @ 7:12 AM ET
Here's your price:

4th OVR + Kadri

You'll get:
10th OVR + O'Reilly

- archromat


archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jun 11 @ 7:14 AM ET
Definitely not
- burn


Yes, you're right. But you have to actually tempt them.

I hear names like Phaneuf and Gardiner being bandied around and can't help but chuckle. If ROR is available, I can guarantee you that the offers are going to be competitive and a salary dump/okay puck moving d-man aren't tempting enough for a 1st/2nd line center who can play shutdown.

.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 11 @ 7:21 AM ET
Yes, you're right. But you have to actually tempt them.

I hear names like Phaneuf and Gardiner being bandied around and can't help but chuckle. If ROR is available, I can guarantee you that the offers are going to be competitive and a salary dump/okay puck moving d-man aren't tempting enough for a 1st/2nd line center who can play shutdown.

- archromat


I for 1 say FRANK RoR @$7MM
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 11 @ 7:26 AM ET
Yes, you're right. But you have to actually tempt them.

I hear names like Phaneuf and Gardiner being bandied around and can't help but chuckle. If ROR is available, I can guarantee you that the offers are going to be competitive and a salary dump/okay puck moving d-man aren't tempting enough for a 1st/2nd line center who can play shutdown.

- archromat



Who's a salary dump?


The insiders are the ones that are bringing up those names, they aren't made up on these threads.

There is tempting, and then there is paying 3 times value. The leafs can get a hell of a lot more than a 7mil 2nd liner for the 4th overall. That's absurd.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 11 @ 7:27 AM ET
This seems like the beginning of the end of hockey in Arizona.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 11 @ 7:34 AM ET
I for 1 say FRANK RoR @$7MM
- .HOHO.



I totally agree. Sid's cap hit is 8.7 mil. Are these guys not getting too close.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 11 @ 7:35 AM ET
This seems like the beginning of the end of hockey in Arizona.
- burn


It's just about (frank)ing time.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 11 @ 7:35 AM ET
This seems like the beginning of the end of hockey in Arizona.
- burn


Thank (frank)ing god !
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 11 @ 7:37 AM ET

Here's your price: Kadri

You'll get: O'Reilly

- archromat


I don't even think I want him enough to do this trade !
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 11 @ 7:42 AM ET
I don't even think I want him enough to do this trade !
- .HOHO.



I don't want him either. He seems like he is never happy.. EVER. Constantly fighting over money with Colorado.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 11 @ 7:46 AM ET
Here's your price:

4th OVR + Kadri

You'll get:
10th OVR + O'Reilly

- archromat



Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 11 @ 7:47 AM ET
It's just about (frank)ing time.
- Pecafan Fan


Long past time. I think we've all just about had enough of the endless crap. Other cities want a team, find an owner and get it done.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 11 @ 7:51 AM ET
Please, please, please stay away from ROR at 7mil.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 11 @ 7:52 AM ET
I don't want him either. He seems like he is never happy.. EVER. Constantly fighting over money with Colorado.
- bixll


Let's not think of it as $7MM ...
Let's think of it as $1.7MM shy of Crosby's contract !
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 11 @ 7:53 AM ET
Let's not think of it as $7MM ...
Let's think of it as $1.7MM shy of Crosby's contract !

- .HOHO.



Thus my point. These GM's have to realize they are over-paying these kids.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 11 @ 7:55 AM ET
Let's not think of it as $7MM ...
Let's think of it as $1.7MM shy of Crosby's contract !

- .HOHO.


Yeah, you're completely out to lunch on this one.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 11 @ 7:57 AM ET
Thus my point. These GM's have to realize they are over-paying these kids.
- bixll


If ROR signs for 7 years at 7 million, it means his contract value is 49 million.

Crosby signed a 104 million dollar contract. It's not even remotely close to be the same thing.

Come on people, let's be serious here.
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 11 @ 7:58 AM ET
Yeah, you're completely out to lunch on this one.
- Pecafan Fan

Yeah, Crosby could easily get more, he just went with a number that looked like his jersey number because, at that point what's a few extra million
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