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twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
why?
- jimi james

They are actually really healthy cause of the Potassium
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 10 @ 10:55 AM ET
New word filter "banana eater"
- twiztedmike


That's not really new.... Pinksock has been using that one for a while now...
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 10 @ 10:55 AM ET
meh, the mayor is an attention grabbing blow hard.

nothing to see here other than a lot of hot air.

- Tumbleweed



No - the City is losing money on the deal and they may have an out since the Coyotes hired the City Attorney that negotiated the contract. The Mayor was opposed to the deal when it was negotiated and he was in Council.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:57 AM ET
meh, the mayor is an attention grabbing blow hard.

nothing to see here other than a lot of hot air.

- Tumbleweed

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this one.

Owners have an out clause to leave Glendale after the 2018 season if they've lost $50 million over five years. Let's just say they are well ahead of schedule on that one.

Glendale currently gives the Coyotes $15 million a year. Yeah, you read that correctly. And in a fabulous bit of accounting, that $15 million/year doesn't count when looking at whether or not the Coyotes are losing money.

So if I'm Glendale City Council, why would I continue to fork over $15 million a year, knowing that they are leaving in 3 seasons anyways?
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:57 AM ET
Is it our beards?
- TonkaPhaneuf

it's your Phaneuf hate
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 10 @ 10:58 AM ET
why?
- jimi james

Are you running ad blocker, JJ?

It's one of the ads on Ek's site.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:58 AM ET
I wonder if we can steal away a mediocre RFA from Boston like a Brett Connolly if we take on Savard's cap hit
- TheMussel

why would they need to get rid of Savards cap hit?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 10 @ 11:02 AM ET
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this one.

Owners have an out clause to leave Glendale after the 2018 season if they've lost $50 million over five years. Let's just say they are well ahead of schedule on that one.

Glendale currently gives the Coyotes $15 million a year. Yeah, you read that correctly. And in a fabulous bit of accounting, that $15 million/year doesn't count when looking at whether or not the Coyotes are losing money.

So if I'm Glendale City Council, why would I continue to fork over $15 million a year, knowing that they are leaving in 3 seasons anyways?

- Atomic Wedgie


Because they signed a contract?

If the Coyotes move, it's in 3 years when the out-clause is executable.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
No - the City is losing money on the deal and they may have an out since the Coyotes hired the City Attorney that negotiated the contract. The Mayor was opposed to the deal when it was negotiated and he was in Council.
- Canada Cup


that seemed to be pretty well known at the time. kinda of stretch to go back and say it is a conflict now.

even if they did have a leg to stand on, i imagine this would take years to sort out in the courts. Coyotes aren't giving up their $15M/year sweetheart deal easily.

The mayor is simply pandering to his voter base. Nothing more.
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Jun 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
why would they need to get rid of Savards cap hit?
- the_eye


He probably means the actual cash $, which I'm not so sure Boston needs to shed for any reason.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 10 @ 11:07 AM ET
He probably means the actual cash $, which I'm not so sure Boston needs to shed for any reason.
- TheThrill

the contract is insured i believe, if so, Boston doesn't need to move it
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jun 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
Are you running ad blocker, JJ?

It's one of the ads on Ek's site.

- Atomic Wedgie

no ad blocker, but all my ads are Hyundai ads...at the moment
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
the contract is insured i believe, if so, Boston doesn't need to move it
- the_eye


true
Horton's contract was a rare one that wasn't insured
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
the contract is insured i believe, if so, Boston doesn't need to move it
- the_eye


His (Savard) contract is insured so his money is guaranteed. And under the CBA, because he is forced to retire because of injury, the NHL (not the Bruins) will continue to pay into his pension plan and other benefits (CDN) for a period of 5 years from the Player’s Emergency Assistance Fund (Section 21.5, page 103 of the CBA).

http://www.stanleycupofch...etire-nhl-cba-stanley-cup
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 10 @ 11:15 AM ET
true
Horton's contract was a rare one that wasn't insured

- Sammich


what was the story behind that? was it simply uninsurable because of his condition?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 10 @ 11:17 AM ET
what was the story behind that? was it simply uninsurable because of his condition?
- DoubleDown


I think there were time constraints for insuring the contract which weren't met.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 10 @ 11:19 AM ET
I think there were time constraints for insuring the contract which weren't met.
- TheMussel


man this did not work out well for the BJs
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:28 AM ET
AETHERIAL ????????
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 10 @ 11:32 AM ET
man this did not work out well for the BJs
- DoubleDown

No it didn't.

Good trade for the Leafs though.

Horton in traction is better than Clarkson playing.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 10 @ 11:32 AM ET
No it didn't.

Good trade for the Leafs though.

Horton in traction is better than Clarkson playing.

- Woderwick


i dunno, aren't you guys trying to lose games in the next year or two?
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 10 @ 11:33 AM ET
what was the story behind that? was it simply uninsurable because of his condition?
- DoubleDown


not sure
maybe having a shoulder injury at the time could have had something to do with it
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 10 @ 11:34 AM ET
i dunno, aren't you guys trying to lose games in the next year or two?
- DoubleDown

Heck, it was so bad you guys couldn't even stand watching Clarkson play for the Leafs.
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jun 10 @ 11:35 AM ET
what was the story behind that? was it simply uninsurable because of his condition?
- DoubleDown

famous insurance company phrase: "pre-existing condition"?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:40 AM ET
Heck, it was so bad you guys couldn't even stand watching Clarkson play for the Leafs.
- Woderwick


Well you know how it is with laughter... at first its fun but if theres too much of it you're having a hard time to breathe and your abs hurt....
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:41 AM ET
that seemed to be pretty well known at the time. kinda of stretch to go back and say it is a conflict now.

even if they did have a leg to stand on, i imagine this would take years to sort out in the courts. Coyotes aren't giving up their $15M/year sweetheart deal easily.

The mayor is simply pandering to his voter base. Nothing more.

- Tumbleweed



The Citylawyer was hired by the Coyotes after the deal was negotiated. Arizona law is clear that governments can void contracts if an employee who was substantively involved in negotiations is hired by the company he was negotiating with. I'm Not sure if there is a question of how involved he was but as City Attorney, I'd have to think pretty involved.

This may get drawn out and Courts are weird down there but it looks like the City might have a leg to stand on.
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