Completely unrelated, but my god, Victor Hedman is something else

I still say the Devils should trade Gelinas, a lower rated prospect and the 6th overall pick to Colorardo for ROR and the 10th oerall pick. Worse case scenario the Devils get Werenski to replace Gelinas. Best case they get one of Rantanen, Brazal or Zacha along with ROR.
- tomburton99

Been saying this for awhile too. All depends if ROR will resign in NJ aswell. Might cost avs a later pick too.

Been saying this for awhile too. All depends if ROR will resign in NJ aswell. Might cost avs a later pick too.
- Rangers_Suck01

Would make me the happiest guy alive but no way does it cost the Avs extra. Likely 6th+Gelly+Hrabarenka/Kujawinski for 10th and ROR would be enough given that the only way this happens is if ROR is strongarming the Avs. I do it in a heartbeat and would have no problem paying ROR whatever he wants too.

Would make me the happiest guy alive but no way does it cost the Avs extra. Likely 6th+Gelly+Hrabarenka/Kujawinski for 10th and ROR would be enough given that the only way this happens is if ROR is strongarming the Avs. I do it in a heartbeat and would have no problem paying ROR whatever he wants too.
- NJD Fan

Rather see what Hrbarenka and Kuj can do before we trade them, i'd rather trade Helgy, IF it requires we trade more for 10+ROR

Would make me the happiest guy alive but no way does it cost the Avs extra. Likely 6th+Gelly+Hrabarenka/Kujawinski for 10th and ROR would be enough given that the only way this happens is if ROR is strongarming the Avs. I do it in a heartbeat and would have no problem paying ROR whatever he wants too.
- NJD Fan

You could always throw in like a conditional 2nd that becomes a first if he signs

I still say the Devils should trade Gelinas, a lower rated prospect and the 6th overall pick to Colorardo for ROR and the 10th oerall pick. Worse case scenario the Devils get Werenski to replace Gelinas. Best case they get one of Rantanen, Brazal or Zacha along with ROR.
- tomburton99

Yes I've been saying that for like two months now

Completely unrelated, but my god, Victor Hedman is something else
- Rangers_Suck01

The guy takes three strides and he's halfway up the ice. I've never seen a defensman consistently be able to pressure the other teams defense.

As a Canes fan I would the first one before Gelinas one. That being said I would want something more, obviously, since there is a drop off from 5 to 6 in most opinions. Someone mentioned the 5th for 6th and both y'all's 2nd rounders which I would take in a heartbeat. That being said history would tell us moving from 6 to 5 isn't even worth a 7th rd pick(according to statistics and some study). I'm not crazy thrilled about Gelinas and believe I can pick just as successful of a dman in the second round(of this draft), I know I would want at least the 6th and 36th after that I'm asking for your other second rounder until we eventually settle on your 3rd/4th rounder instead. But maybe I'm getting way into being an armchair gm.
- Wolfpack5

I don't know how much the devils would be willing to pay to only move up a spot.

The guy takes three strides and he's halfway up the ice. I've never seen a defensman consistently be able to pressure the other teams defense.
- rmdevil313

And he's what 6'5" or something stupid like that? Guy's an absolute beast

Trading down to 12 at worst is with Dallas. They are only moving up to draft a d-man so the worst case scenario would be:
6) Dallas - Provorov
7) Philly - Zacha
8) Columbus - Werenski
9) SJ - Barzal
10) Colorado - Crouse
11) Florida - Rantanen/Connor
12) NJ - Connor/Rantanen

Connor is a stud scorer and barely off Barzal or Zacha. Rant is a beast too who is playing with adults. Dallas would need to give us way more than 49th overall to trade up. It would likely take Elie and a second next year. If we trade down to 8-10, the worst scenarios are:

6) Columbus - Provorov
7) Philly - Zacha
8) NJ - Barzal
or
6) SJ - Zacha/Barzal/Provorov
7) Philly - Crouse/Zacha
8) Columbus - Provorov/Werenski
9) NJ - Barzal/Crouse/Provorov
or
6) Colorado - Provorov
7) Philly - Zacha
8) Columbus - Werenski
9) SJ - Barzal
10) NJ - Crouse

Worst we get is Crouse and I wouldn't be heartbroken as it would give us 39th or 40th overall as well. Crouse plus three picks between 36 and 41 is setting up a pretty amazing draft and that's without the possibility of packaging Gelinas with one or two of the second rounders to move up and into the back half of the first round.
- NJD Fan

The more I read up about connor the more I like him and am surprised he isn't rated higher. I would have no problem trading down to around 10 and picking him. Seems to have all the tools to be a great scorer in the NHL. His rankings and projections on TSN are also higher than most of those third tier forwards.

And he's what 6'5" or something stupid like that? Guy's an absolute beast
- bobert836

I think 6'6 but agreed. He looks like he's playing against kids at times.

I agree with most posts on here. I'd have no problem picking provorov or trading down a couple spots to end up with an extra second plus the same forward we'd be picking at 6 anyways. I mean, my god, the defense would be unreal. greene/Larsson - provorov/severson - santini/gelly/Jacobs. All young (besides greene, need the vet to anchor the young ones) This would be awfully hard to pass up on having one day. This defense plus cory in net, good luck scoring a goal against NJ, cause it'll be awfully tough.
But, with all this said, we really do need us an elite offensive player for our franchise to build around. We could draft provorov and draft forwards with our two second rounders. Haven't done much research on prospects past the first round though. Whatever we do though, should be very interesting.

I think 6'6 but agreed. He looks like he's playing against kids at times.
- rmdevil313

.. and he's only 23. Same with OEL. 23! absolutely insane.

Let's not forget how many seasons it took for him to become even a #3dman, let alone a star. Larsson is following a similar pattern, as is customary for dmen in general, apparently regardless of where in the draft they're picked. Gives me hope for Larsson. We saw how he flourished after given responsibility and having confidence instilled in him. Hopefully he continues the trend and can be that steady "Lidstrom" to anchor a top pairing.

Completely unrelated, but my god, Victor Hedman is something else
- Rangers_Suck01

Total beast. Fun to watch play he's like have an extra forward on the ice without losing a D man. Excellent vision too, that pass to Callahan (who has been pretty impressive also) was spot on.

.. and he's only 23. Same with OEL. 23! absolutely insane.

Let's not forget how many seasons it took for him to become even a #3dman, let alone a star. Larsson is following a similar pattern, as is customary for dmen in general, apparently regardless of where in the draft they're picked. Gives me hope for Larsson. We saw how he flourished after given responsibility and having confidence instilled in him. Hopefully he continues the trend and can be that steady "Lidstrom" to anchor a top pairing.
- MartysBetter88

I don't see that happening. Hedman is a much better skater than Larsson is and has a better shot as well. Larsson has a smooth stride, but he has no acceleration and has trouble changing directions. Hopefully he can improve some of that working with the power-skating coach this offseason, but he's not going to get to a Hedman level. I think Severson could be as good or better than Hedman though.

I don't see that happening. Hedman is a much better skater than Larsson is and has a better shot as well. Larsson has a smooth stride, but he has no acceleration and has trouble changing directions. Hopefully he can improve some of that working with the power-skating coach this offseason, but he's not going to get to a Hedman level. I think Severson could be as good or better than Hedman though.
- CaptCrankypants

I see Severson turning into a Drew Doughty type

I know Herman was a beast last night but I think Stralman was excellent most of his shifts. The guy was flying, he brought the puck deep once and was down by the net, a Blackhawk swindled it away from whoever he passed to and looked like an odd man rush was about to happen, next thing i saw was Stralman beating everyone back and breaking up the play.

This has been one hell of an entertaining series.

Someday we will get to watch the Devils play great games like these again.

it will probably be 2020 by the time it happens though

I see Severson turning into a Drew Doughty type
- rawwdogg88

I mean, I wasn't really talking about style, just overall quality. Point is, I think he's going to be a star. If he plays like Doughty instead of Hedman, I think I'd be ok with that.

I mean, I wasn't really talking about style, just overall quality. Point is, I think he's going to be a star. If he plays like Doughty instead of Hedman, I think I'd be ok with that.
- CaptCrankypants

I think he will be a star as well which Doughty is without a doubt, a star.

I don't see that happening. Hedman is a much better skater than Larsson is and has a better shot as well. Larsson has a smooth stride, but he has no acceleration and has trouble changing directions. Hopefully he can improve some of that working with the power-skating coach this offseason, but he's not going to get to a Hedman level. I think Severson could be as good or better than Hedman though.
- CaptCrankypants

I'm not saying he'll be like Hedman, I'm just saying he's following a similar development path. Is he working with a power-skating coach??

.. and he's only 23. Same with OEL. 23! absolutely insane.

Let's not forget how many seasons it took for him to become even a #3dman, let alone a star. Larsson is following a similar pattern, as is customary for dmen in general, apparently regardless of where in the draft they're picked. Gives me hope for Larsson. We saw how he flourished after given responsibility and having confidence instilled in him. Hopefully he continues the trend and can be that steady "Lidstrom" to anchor a top pairing.
- MartysBetter88

Hedman took a while because of his size, it simply takes longer for bigger players to grow in to their bodies (like this one player at the draft ) Larsson will probably never develop to be as good as Ekman or Hedman because he's not as strong of a skater, although I'm fine with that and could also be completely wrong.

I also posted this in the bolts thread but Swedens defense at the next olympics is going to be insane. OEL, Karlsson, and Hedman are the locks with Klingberg, Lindholm, Larsson, Brodin, Stralman fighting for the last spots.

I mean, I wasn't really talking about style, just overall quality. Point is, I think he's going to be a star. If he plays like Doughty instead of Hedman, I think I'd be ok with that.
- CaptCrankypants

How many Dman do you consider better than Hedman though? And maybe I'm nitpicking since you did say as good or better, but IMO Hedman is in that top tier of dmen with Doughty, Keith, Subban etc. It will be pretty hard for Severson to top that.

I know Herman was a beast last night but I think Stralman was excellent most of his shifts. The guy was flying, he brought the puck deep once and was down by the net, a Blackhawk swindled it away from whoever he passed to and looked like an odd man rush was about to happen, next thing i saw was Stralman beating everyone back and breaking up the play.
- shvingter88

Thought he was garbage?

I know Herman was a beast last night but I think Stralman was excellent most of his shifts. The guy was flying, he brought the puck deep once and was down by the net, a Blackhawk swindled it away from whoever he passed to and looked like an odd man rush was about to happen, next thing i saw was Stralman beating everyone back and breaking up the play.
- shvingter88

That's your boy