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hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 4 @ 1:04 PM ET
For the most part yes. I think you could force LA's hand with Toffoli a bit, but in the end I think they still match.
- HonkFortheGoose

Figure the most we can offer is like 3.75 or something like that or else wed lose a 1st if im not mistaken
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 4 @ 1:05 PM ET
Figure the most we can offer is like 3.75 or something like that or else wed lose a 1st if im not mistaken
- hubie



For a guy like Tarsenko or Toffoli would losing next years first be that big of a deal?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 4 @ 1:06 PM ET
It wouldn't shock me if we found out that an offer sheet is a route that Tim Murray is considering.
- buffalofan19


It wouldn't shock me either. He has the personality type to do it, IMO. He doesn't give a poop about what anyone else thinks of him or what he's trying to do. His goal is to build a team and he'll use any means necessary to do it.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
For a guy like Tarsenko or Toffoli would losing next years first be that big of a deal?
- Stripes77


I do as I still think its a top 1o pick. Tasenko will be resigned with whatever si put out there so that owuldnt matter. LA still makes a few moves if needed to sign toffolli
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 4 @ 1:08 PM ET
Illegitimate daughter of Dave?
- jochfr

Don't know . Hover the mouse over her and thats what shows on the bottom task bar.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 4 @ 1:08 PM ET
For a guy like Tarsenko or Toffoli would losing next years first be that big of a deal?
- Stripes77

I don't think so.

http://www.generalfanager.com/teams
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
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Jun 4 @ 1:12 PM ET
I do as I still think its a top 1o pick. Tasenko will be resigned with whatever si put out there so that owuldnt matter. LA still makes a few moves if needed to sign toffolli
- hubie


There is a time limit for them to make those moves though. The Kings or Blues would have 1 week to make the moves necessary to make them fit. Tarasenko would be worth any top 10 pick this year except for maybe 1st overall and even then its close IMO
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 4 @ 1:14 PM ET
There is a time limit for them to make those moves though. The Kings or Blues would have 1 week to make the moves necessary to make them fit. Tarasenko would be worth any top 10 pick this year except for maybe 1st overall and even then its close IMO
- Stripes77


we could give vaneks contract and the blues are still resigning him
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 4 @ 1:17 PM ET
we could give vaneks contract and the blues are still resigning him
- hubie


That would leave them $7 million to sign 8 players (if the cap is at $71 million). It's not as cut and dry as you think.

Yes they would probably match but teams are going to have to be very careful
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 4 @ 1:18 PM ET
Seesm like we have these same rfa conversations every ear and nothing ever happends
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 4 @ 1:19 PM ET
Seesm like we have these same rfa conversations every ear and nothing ever happends
- hubie


The dropping of the Canadian Dollar screwed a lot of teams though. This is really the perfect storm for a few players to get offer sheeted. Teams are pretty Cap strapped this year
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 4 @ 1:22 PM ET
The dropping of the Canadian Dollar screwed a lot of teams though. This is really the perfect storm for a few players to get offer sheeted. Teams are pretty Cap strapped this year
- Stripes77

IM not opposed to it I just dont see it occuring
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 4 @ 1:24 PM ET
The dropping of the Canadian Dollar screwed a lot of teams though. This is really the perfect storm for a few players to get offer sheeted. Teams are pretty Cap strapped this year
- Stripes77


There are only a few teams that can even offer sheet guys. Either they don't have the picks needed for compensation or they don't have cap room to make it work anyway. Buffalo is one of a very few that could pull one off. It's part of why they were very particular about which 3rd rounder they were giving to Pitt for Bylsma.

That said, during the press conference Murray said he hadn't considered offer sheets, but that Jakubowski (his Asst GM) mentioned that we should retain ours because it gives us more flexibility.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
That would leave them $7 million to sign 8 players (if the cap is at $71 million). It's not as cut and dry as you think.

Yes they would probably match but teams are going to have to be very careful

- Stripes77

I'd rather trade for one of their d men

that's just me
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
IM not opposed to it I just dont see it occuring
- hubie

I'd offer sheet Holtby

that's about it

I want a known if offer sheeting a goalie

hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
I'd offer sheet Holtby

that's about it

I want a known if offer sheeting a goalie

- homiedclown


Once hte Blues sign Tashenko could throw an offer at Allen
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 4 @ 1:28 PM ET
There are only a few teams that can even offer sheet guys. Either they don't have the picks needed for compensation or they don't have cap room to make it work anyway. Buffalo is one of a very few that could pull one off. It's part of why they were very particular about which 3rd rounder they were giving to Pitt for Bylsma.

That said, during the press conference Murray said he hadn't considered offer sheets, but that Jakubowski (his Asst GM) mentioned that we should retain ours because it gives us more flexibility.

- HonkFortheGoose


I'm not sure if he will, I know that it leaves a sour taste in other GM's mouth when it happens but there will always be GM's to trade with IMO.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:28 PM ET
Sabres big on Lehner. Offering up one of our 3rds for him currently.
Holtby on radar too but it depends if they lose out on Lehner. Besides Holtby take a look at other RFA's out there, because Sabres sure are. They want to offer sheet someone this summer. Toffoli, Saad, Tarasenko, and dougie Hamilton are on the radar.

Lots of interest in the Mike Reilly sweeps and if they don't get him and don't trade away that 2nd first round pick we have it looks as if they will use that selection to pick a d man. If Hanifin falls Murray wants to move up with that pick

- Beezer33



Lehner. Sucks ass the only thing I'll give up for him is a fourth

and I disagree if hanifin falls I would still take Zack Werenski I think he's going to be way better in the long run and I hope to God we don't go back for a defenseman we draft another forward a stud winger
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:29 PM ET
Seesm like we have these same rfa conversations every ear and nothing ever happends
- hubie

I've been missing the Hubie spelin' lately...
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 4 @ 1:30 PM ET
I've been missing the Hubie spelin' lately...
- jochfr

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 4 @ 1:30 PM ET
Lehner. Sucks ass the only thing I'll give up for him is a fourth

and I disagree if hanifin falls I would still take Zack Werenski I think he's going to be way better in the long run and I hope to God we don't go back for a defenseman we draft another forward a stud winger

- gerbe75pts


jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:32 PM ET
[quote=HonkFortheGoose]

College is awesome...
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:33 PM ET
For a guy like Tarsenko or Toffoli would losing next years first be that big of a deal?
- Stripes77



For Tarsenko yes but not Tyler Toffoli

We get Tarasenko out of the top 5

we get Tyler Toffoli will be picking in the top still
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 4 @ 1:34 PM ET
Lehner. Sucks ass the only thing I'll give up for him is a fourth

and I disagree if hanifin falls I would still take Zack Werenski I think he's going to be way better in the long run and I hope to God we don't go back for a defenseman we draft another forward a stud winger

- gerbe75pts


Seriously?

The blue line depth is non existent after Risto, Pysyk, McCabe and Zadorov. Hannifin is a few years out but the need to start rebuilding the blue line depth as well.

They have Bailey, Baptiste, Poessler, Compher all on the wings.

hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 4 @ 1:35 PM ET
Seriously?

The blue line depth is non existent after Risto, Pysyk, McCabe and Zadorov. Hannifin is a few years out but the need to start rebuilding the blue line depth as well.

They have Bailey, Baptiste, Poessler, Compher all on the wings.

- Stripes77


Fasching dont forget and carrier
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