Crosby's 2 way game is so under rated because he so awesome offensively, why would a team with one of the best point producers EVER play D first?
- PinkSock

Now you sound like Tanner when talking about Gardiner.

Kessel would have scored on the breakaway. I'm sure of it.

Yes you do. Look at Kessel this year, teams scoring he's scoring, teams not he's not.


Let's compare Crosby and Toews when they play against each other and with each other. Toews significantly out plays, and out scores Crosby. Conclusion? Crosby's the greatest human being ever!
- Newfinator81

Pens had a better year D wise and Crosby had better individual numbers

Kessel would have scored on the breakaway. I'm sure of it.
- fidopro

he's awful at breakaways and shootouts

Now you sound like Tanner when talking about Gardiner.
- Newfinator81

okay, but Im not Tanner and Im not talking about Gardiner

Yes you do. Look at Kessel this year, teams scoring he's scoring, teams not he's not.


Let's compare Crosby and Toews when they play against each other and with each other. Toews significantly out plays, and out scores Crosby. Conclusion? Crosby's the greatest human being ever!
- Newfinator81

The stats don't lie/ Patrick Kane outscores Toews.
And Kessel has regular scored a lot even when the team struggles. Crosby has the 5th best PPG in NHL history. Enough said.

Now you sound like Tanner when talking about Gardiner.
- Newfinator81

You sound like Garth going on about Freakorenko



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game set match

I didn't edit. I was typing it when they scored.
- fidopro

Then how did I get to quote it beforehand...?

Some dudes in the Ottawa thread were comparing Turris to Toews. I didn't even have the heart to ridicule them for it.

Pens had a better year D wise and Crosby had better individual numbers
- PinkSock

Fleury was amazing this year. Not saying Toews is as good offensively, or better than Crosby. Just the gap is closer than better wished it was. Outside of the offense, Toews beats Crosby in everything....maybe not face-offs, it's cose either way.

Then ho did I get to quote it beforehand...?
- lumlums

Damn! That's a very good question!

1 1961 CA Wayne Gretzky F 1487 894 1963 2857 577 518 204 73 91 0.601 1.320 1.921
2 1965 CA Mario Lemieux F 915 690 1033 1723 834 115 236 49 74 0.754 1.129 1.883
3 1957 CA Mike Bossy F 752 573 553 1126 210 381 181 8 82 0.762 0.735 1.497
4 1948 CA Bobby Orr D 657 270 645 915 953 597 73 15 26 0.411 0.982 1.393
5 1987 CA Sidney Crosby F 627 302 551 853 510 129 91 3 37 0.482 0.879 1.360



Top 5 PPG NHL history. And Crosby is doing it in the worst offensive era of the 5.

But a guy with 1 70 point seasons better. It's all because Crosby is on an "Offensive First" team...

The stats don't lie/ Patrick Kane outscores Toews.
And Kessel has regular scored a lot even when the team struggles. Crosby has the 5th best PPG in NHL history. Enough said.
- RogerRoeper

You're right, Crosby is greatest human being ever. All hail Crosby, and he's PPG!

Damn! That's a very good question!
- fidopro

Fleury was amazing this year. Not saying Toews is as good offensively, or better than Crosby. Just the gap is closer than better wished it was. Outside of the offense, Toews beats Crosby in everything....maybe not face-offs, it's cose either way.
- Newfinator81

Like I said, early in their career, no question Crosby was better.
For the past 2-3 years... meh.

You're right, Crosbovsky* is greatest human being ever. All hail Crosbovsky*, and he's PPG!
- Newfinator81

*Fixed

You're right, Crosby is greatest human being ever. All hail Crosby, and he's PPG!
- Newfinator81

Please see above post and try to dispute it wiith lame excuses.

You sound like Garth going on about Freakorenko



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game set match
- PinkSock

I sound like Garth?!?!


I'm sorry for everything....

Like I said, early in their career, no question Crosby was better.
For the past 2-3 years... meh.
- fidopro

Crosby won the Hart and Art Ross just last season.

- PinkSock

wow I wish I was Newfinator81 right now

Crosby won the Hart and Art Ross just last season.
- RogerRoeper

He also used to win the Art Ross by a wide margin, not anymore. He didn't win this year. He's game is slowing down. He's still very good, don't get me wrong, but his game is slowing down.

Like I said, early in their career, no question Crosby was better.
For the past 2-3 years... meh.
- fidopro

Crosby has a way better contract now.

Crosby has a way better contract now.
- daeth

Toews too!

He also used to win the Art Roos by a wide margin, not anymore. He didn't win this year. He's game is slowing down. He's still very good, don't get me wrong, but his game is slowing down.
- fidopro

h now it matters he didn't win by a wide margin? The fact is he did win the Hart and Art Ross and Toews wasn't close to him.