What about Cam Neely

there are exceptions to the rule, but most NHL legends who were 'leaders' won cups.

i can think of one close to home that is known as a leader but never won anything.
- Lee Denault

Iginlas a know leader and never won a cup.. won at pretty much every other level though

The Flames didn't win the cup this year, and Giordano is considered a great leader. That fits what you asked. How about Weber? McDonagh? Getzalf (he didn't win when he was captain), Doan.
- Newfinator81

Ryan.

(frank)ing.

Smyth.

The Flames didn't win the cup this year, and Giordano is considered a great leader. That fits what you asked. How about Weber? McDonagh? Getzalf (he didn't win when he was captain), Doan.
- Newfinator81

woah woah woah, hold your horses

also...define 'great'


sens made the playoffs Karlsson is a great leader.

youve got 4 in the history of the nhl and im sure there is more


all im saying..well you know what im saying by now
- Lee Denault

Neely, Joe Thorton,




Linden who was suppose to be some great captain

never talked about until they over achieved
they kept pace and made the playoffs without him
- Sammich

Never talked about? The moment Iginla was traded the first name that came up when talking about the next captain was Giordano. Why? Good [frank]ing leader.

Ryan.

(frank)ing.

Smyth.




- lumlums

now thats a rebuttal thats the only one that made me go... damn

You Leafs fans need to understand a thing. It's not the team that makes the player. It's the players that make the team.
Kane is not better than Kessel because he plays for Chicago. Chicago is better because Kane plays for them.
Same for any other players. Perry is not better because he plays for ANA. ANA is better because Perry plays for them.

Now, Phaneuf and Kessel both sucks as leaders, and guess what, they would still suck on any ohter team they'd play for. They're not bad leaders because they're on the Leafs. The Leafs are bad because they have Kessel and Phaneuf as leaders.


Ouah! That was good.

- fidopro

okay twit, Kessel is not a leader, where the F did you get that from?
and the Leafs don't suck cause Kessel is on the team they suck cause they have no heart or gumption

(frank) leaders

(frank) leaders
- Zezel

just win


you will be called a leader as soon as you do.

okay twit, Kessel is not a leader, where the F did you get that from?
and the Leafs don't suck cause Kessel is on the team they suck cause they have no heart or gumption
- the_eye

truculence

Thornton got stripped of the C after his team failed for years and some of the young guys complained to the coaching staff that he was too hard on them.

woah woah woah, hold your horses

also...define 'great'


sens made the playoffs Karlsson is a great leader.
- Lee Denault

great
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of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above the normal or average.
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used to reinforce another adjective of size or extent.
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used to express surprise, admiration, or contempt, especially in exclamations.
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used in names of animals or plants that are larger than similar kinds, e.g., great auk, greater flamingo.
(of a city) including adjacent urban areas.
comparative adjective: Greater
"Greater Cleveland"
2.
of ability, quality, or eminence considerably above the normal or average.
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antonyms: minor
a title denoting the most important person of the name.
adjective: Great
"Alexander the Great"
informal
very good or satisfactory; excellent.
"this has been another great year"
synonyms: enjoyable, delightful, lovely, pleasant, congenial; More
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(of a person) very skilled or capable in a particular area.
"a brilliant man, great at mathematics"
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denoting the element of something that is the most important or the most worthy of consideration.
"the great thing is the challenge"
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used to indicate that someone or something particularly deserves a specified description.
"I was a great fan of Hank's"
synonyms: enthusiastic, eager, keen, zealous, devoted, ardent, fanatical, passionate, dedicated, committed
"a great fan of rugby"
4.
(in names of family relationships) denoting one degree further removed upward or downward.
"great-aunt"
noun
noun: great; plural noun: greats; plural noun: Greats
1.
a great or distinguished person.
"the Beatles, Bob Dylan, all the greats"
great people collectively.
plural noun: the great
"the lives of the great, including Churchill and Newton"
2.
BRITISHinformal
another term for Literae Humaniores.
adverbinformal
adverb: great
1.
excellently; very well.
"we played awful, they played great"


You asked...

(frank) leaders
- Zezel

huh

good argument guys, i win though.

its cuz im a leader

just win


you will be called a leader as soon as you do.
- Lee Denault

I agree with you sir

Never talked about? The moment Iginla was traded the first name that came up when talking about the next captain was Giordano. Why? Good
- Newfinator81[frank]ing leader.

why did they do so well without him?

okay twit, Kessel is not a leader, where the F did you get that from?
and the Leafs don't suck cause Kessel is on the team they suck cause they have no heart or gumption
- the_eye

Thornton got stripped of the C after his team failed for years and some of the young guys complained to the coaching staff that he was too hard on them.
- Sammich

#leader

now thats a rebuttal thats the only one that made me go... damn
- Lee Denault

Buddy left behind California to come back... that's a guy who cares



(I will not leave Cali for Alberta without a poop-tonne of money coming back my way!!!)

I agree with you sir
- ClarksonDavid

thank you, sir.

Buddy left behind California to come back... that;s a guy who cares
- lumlums

he is captain canada. i cant argue on that one.

truculence
- DarcyTucker16

call it what you want, the guys a twit, saying Kessel would still suck on any other team

call it what you want, the guys a twit, saying Kessel would still suck on any other team
- the_eye

he'd be a cough...leader

#leader
- Lee Denault