Kane is better and not only because he's on the Hawks, the Hawks are better because they have Kane and not Kessel... but youre right, its not apples and oranges
- user1

no, its really isnt. and im not going to argue it.

If kessel was on the hawks and not Kane, theyd be the same team.

of course not, because you get max return at Deadline...
o wait.

but once deadline comes around the cap is an issue and all we hear is this is more of an offseason move.

and around and around we go.
- Lee Denault

They'll get 1 done for sure i think, its just not that easy, especially the Phaneuf deal

Kane is better and not only because he's on the Hawks, the Hawks are better because they have Kane and not Kessel... but youre right, its not apples and oranges
- user1

who lead Team USA at the Olympics?

Kessel has literally no one to play with. and hes not going to find it here any time soon.

They'll get 1 done for sure i think, its just not that easy, especially the Phaneuf deal
- user1

well thats what the suits get paid for. I dont care if its hard.

The core has to go.. and the sooner it goes we can start this the right way.

no, its really isnt. and im not going to argue it.

If kessel was on the hawks and not Kane, theyd be the same team.
- Lee Denault

They would still be pretty dominant yes but I still think Kane is better, no matter who plays where but not by a whole lot

Kane is better and not only because he's on the Hawks, the Hawks are better because they have Kane and not Kessel... but youre right, its not apples and oranges
- user1

I'll take Kessel contract over Kanes contract everyday.

Again the team they play for tends to hinder peoples opinion of the player

Personally you'd have one of the best forward groups with...

Lee JT Kessel
Nelson Strome KO
Kulemin Neilsen Grabovski
Martin Cizikas Clutterbuck

The new York maple leafs! ! Lol

Very good.
- blacksheep1

who lead Team USA at the Olympics?

Kessel has literally no one to play with. and hes not going to find it here any time soon.
- Lee Denault

Why go back to a 2 week period where Kessel outscored Kane? Doesn't really say a whole lot, how many huge goals has Kane scored at critical times in the playoffs? Multiple series clinches, OT playoff goals? Lots more the Phil...

Why go back to a 2 week period where Kessel outscored Kane? Doesn't really say a whole lot, how many huge goals has Kane scored at critical times in the playoffs? Multiple series clinches, OT playoff goals? Lots more the Phil...
- user1

More opportunity than kessel.

Phil is a ppg in playoffs.

To say they are apples and oranges is beyond me

Why go back to a 2 week period where Kessel outscored Kane? Doesn't really say a whole lot, how many huge goals has Kane scored at critical times in the playoffs? Multiple series clinches, OT playoff goals? Lots more the Phil...
- user1

Doesn't say a whole lot because it doesn't support your argument.

Give kessel someone to play with..like Kane has.

More opportunity than kessel.

Phil is a ppg in playoffs.

To say they are apples and oranges is beyond me
- Lee Denault

I agree with you on that but i gotta stick with Kane is better

Doesn't say a whole lot because it doesn't support your argument.

Give kessel someone to play with..like Kane has.
- Lee Denault

It doesn't say much because its a small sample in a 10 year stretch, Kane shines in the NHL playoffs every year not for a 2 week tournament every 4 years

I agree with you on that but i gotta stick with Kane is better
- user1

That's fine. I was arguing the apples and oranges comment

It doesn't say much because its a small sample in a 10 year stretch, Kane shines in the NHL playoffs every year not for a tournament every 4 years
- user1

Kessel has been to the playoffs like twice in ten years.

Kessel has been to the playoffs like twice in ten years.
- Lee Denault

And Kane has 91 playoff points in 93 playoff games

Kessel has been to the playoffs like twice in ten years.
- Lee Denault

He was 17 ten years ago.

And Kane has 91 playoff points in 93 playoff games
- user1

so kessel isnt as good as kane because the leafs dont play that many playoff games.

ok

Does that make his assertion any less accurate? How many playoff appearances?
- Tangled

Anyone saying hed be a fit in st Louis is insane. Hitchcock would never stand for all that crap. Hed be benched most of the season. Even the legendary brett hull had incredible fights with him constantly......and he was in shape and played well.

No fit in st Louis. If you think so, seek immediate medical attention.

Anyone saying hed be a fit in st Louis is insane. Hitchcock would never stand for all that crap. Hed be benched most of the season. Even the legendary brett hull had incredible fights with him constantly......and he was in shape and played well.

No fit in st Louis. If you think so, seek immediate medical attention.
- SMBDragon

That Vancouver window is starting to look like a closed door.

He was 17 ten years ago.
- sloppyseconds2

Kessel has only been to the playoffs twice in 500 years.

some of these trades are just brutal. guys make it sound like kessel is a salary dump.

if kessel is going to Florida the convo starts with huberdeau and 11th pick

carolina?

5th pick, fleury and semin

islanders?
one of dal colle or strome and reinhart

some of these trades are just brutal. guys make it sound like kessel is a salary dump.

if kessel is going to Florida the convo starts with huberdeau and 11th pick

carolina?

5th pick, fleury and semin

islanders?
one of dal colle or strome and reinhart
- Leafer749

Pittsburg?

Crosby and Malkin

Kovi got a return of prospect in Cormier, an more developed prospect in Bergfores, oduya and 1st. Bergfores and Cromier were bust. But the building blocks are their

Nash for Artie, Dubi, Rychel(19th overall pick) and erixon. Similar deal

Kesler and 3rd for Bonio, Sbisa 1st.

Richards for Schenn, Simmonds 2nd rounder

Carter for Voracek, 1st(Couturier) and 3rd(Cousins.


at a reasonable offer.



- blacksheep1

you kinda forgot the pick we got back and turned out to be buchnevich but sure don't mention that

no, its really isnt. and im not going to argue it.

If kessel was on the hawks and not Kane, theyd be the same team.
- Lee Denault

Difference is kane backchecks and has alot more drive than phil. I used to think the same as you, but the more i watch kane, theres a big difference in determination. Similar players no doubt but ill take kane all day.