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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

May 27 @ 7:05 PM ET
good luck then. No interest at all from an Isles fan. Cap retained? Maybe 2016 first. No cap retained? I'd rather not commit that much salary cap to a guy who doesn't show up for large portions of every season.
- Isles_since_6

I doubt they retain salary, most likely take back a contract with 3-4 years with some 3-4 million on it to help make money work.

It could still be a decent player though.

They are not going to give him away for free, still a great player and a huge asset
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

May 27 @ 7:06 PM ET
i think you grab a pretty good prospect at #11

whoever's left of zacha/brazal/provorov/werenski/rantanen/crouse maybe

- Tumbleweed


agreed. all hypothetically speaking of course.
Garth_Mctavish
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.10.2014

May 27 @ 7:07 PM ET
I think Florida fans are in a "win now" mentality. They might very well be willing to part with a #11 overall for Kessel. We parted with 2 firsts cause we wanted him so bad (hindsight hurts so bad right now). A #11 for a "star-scorer" isn't bad when you're goal hungry.

Dunno who the prospect/roster player would be.

Who'd you grab with #11 overall?

- DavidSuzuki

At 11 I'd try to grab Zacha or Crouse if he falls that far
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 27 @ 7:08 PM ET
Mike Augello: Surveying The NHL Landscape – Where Will Phil Kessel Be Traded??
- mikeinbuffalo



Isles have no interest unless salary is being taken back. Kessel would ruin future signings of the isles kids & JT, so that's why is doesn't make sense.....

Thanks for the acknowledgment but back to the drawing board.......

ARZ or FLA are the best destinations
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 27 @ 7:10 PM ET
Patrick kane doesn't exactly play team defense
- Tumbleweed



U cant compare apples to oranges....
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 27 @ 7:10 PM ET
I doubt they retain salary, most likely take back a contract with 3-4 years with some 3-4 million on it to help make money work.

It could still be a decent player though.

They are not going to give him away for free, still a great player and a huge asset

- bryant


yup, baily from nyi as a dump would seem to make sense
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 27 @ 7:11 PM ET
I doubt they retain salary, most likely take back a contract with 3-4 years with some 3-4 million on it to help make money work.

It could still be a decent player though.

They are not going to give him away for free, still a great player and a huge asset

- bryant

Tough to call. Nash was a different situation, a great player who never had a team around him, always gave his best effort and finally had enough of never having a shot at the cup.

Kessel has a history of long stretches without scoring, questionable effort, even more questionable attitude. I have trouble seeing much value with all of that surrounding him. If his contract was lower and had only a year or two remaining on it I’d be more inclined to think he’d be worth taking a risk on, but with that contract and his history…I’d be very disappointed if he ended up going to the isles.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 27 @ 7:11 PM ET
I think Florida fans are in a "win now" mentality. They might very well be willing to part with a #11 overall for Kessel. We parted with 2 firsts cause we wanted him so bad (hindsight hurts so bad right now). A #11 for a "star-scorer" isn't bad when you're goal hungry.

Dunno who the prospect/roster player would be.

Who'd you grab with #11 overall?

- DavidSuzuki



Nope, not with $8m price tag for 100 yrs
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 27 @ 7:12 PM ET
yup, baily from nyi as a dump would seem to make sense
- Tumbleweed

until the leafs asked for more than that anyway.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
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May 27 @ 7:13 PM ET
U cant compare apples to oranges....
- Ur Not Me


2 highly skilled, fast wingers

both perimeter players with a lack of commitment on the defense end with difficult personalities

yup, can't think of two players further apart.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 27 @ 7:14 PM ET
2 highly skilled, fast wingers

both perimeter players with a lack of commitment on the defense end with difficult personalities

yup, can't think of two players further apart.

- Tumbleweed

if you think Kane is a perimeter player then you're already too far gone.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 27 @ 7:15 PM ET
2 highly skilled, fast wingers

both perimeter players with a lack of commitment on the defense end with difficult personalities

yup, can't think of two players further apart.

- Tumbleweed



Meaning the overall teams they play on are light yrs different. U wont notice Kane bc the team plays D, not the case in TOR when everything is magnified
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 27 @ 7:15 PM ET
fla may not want to trade the #11 at the home draft

maybe trochek (prospect), petrovic (young roster player), 2016 1st and 2015 3rd

- Tumbleweed



Why would the leafs?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
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May 27 @ 7:16 PM ET
Tough to call. Nash was a different situation, a great player who never had a team around him, always gave his best effort and finally had enough of never having a shot at the cup.

Kessel has a history of long stretches without scoring, questionable effort, even more questionable attitude. I have trouble seeing much value with all of that surrounding him. If his contract was lower and had only a year or two remaining on it I’d be more inclined to think he’d be worth taking a risk on, but with that contract and his history…I’d be very disappointed if he ended up going to the isles.

- Isles_since_6



nash shut down his last year in columbus; so no, he didn't always give his all.

he also goes long stretches without scoring.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 27 @ 7:16 PM ET
Why would the leafs?
- burn

I kinda hope you go into next season with exactly the same lineup.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 27 @ 7:17 PM ET
nash shut down his last year in columbus; so no, he didn't always give his all.

he is goes long stretches without scoing.

- Tumbleweed


with the rangers, yes.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

May 27 @ 7:17 PM ET
Tough to call. Nash was a different situation, a great player who never had a team around him, always gave his best effort and finally had enough of never having a shot at the cup.

Kessel has a history of long stretches without scoring, questionable effort, even more questionable attitude. I have trouble seeing much value with all of that surrounding him. If his contract was lower and had only a year or two remaining on it I’d be more inclined to think he’d be worth taking a risk on, but with that contract and his history…I’d be very disappointed if he ended up going to the isles.

- Isles_since_6

Kessel is still a great player though. He gets a bad rap because he plays for a terrible team since he has gotten here.

He still makes every player better when they play with him. And that includes JVR
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
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May 27 @ 7:18 PM ET
Why would the leafs?
- burn


what do you think they get?
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 27 @ 7:18 PM ET
I kinda hope you go into next season with exactly the same lineup.
- Isles_since_6



They might only bc to give Babcock an evaluation of what he has as a roster? but u never know
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 27 @ 7:19 PM ET
Kessel is still a great player though. He gets a bad rap because he plays for a terrible team since he has gotten here.

He still makes every player better when they play with him. And that includes JVR

- bryant

really? It's on the team and not Kessel? Because every mid season swan dive you guys have taken lately seems to coincide with kessel on a prolonged scoring slump

pretty sure you can't say it's one and not the other.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 27 @ 7:20 PM ET
They might only bc to give Babcock an evaluation of what he has as a roster? but u never know
- Ur Not Me

god that would suck for leafs fans.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 27 @ 7:20 PM ET
Kessel is still a great player though. He gets a bad rap because he plays for a terrible team since he has gotten here.

He still makes every player better when they play with him. And that includes JVR

- bryant



No one is denying his skill, honestly I would take him on isles, the reason I don't want him now is bc of the contract. It be a diff story if isles had many bad contracts, but they don't, if u get my point?
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 27 @ 7:21 PM ET
No one is denying his skill, honestly I would take him on isles, the reason I don't want him now is bc of the contract. It be a diff story if isles had many bad contracts, but they don't, if u get my point?
- Ur Not Me

I don't want him for his attitude and how lazy he looks when he's not scoring. He looks like he has no motivation half the season and that's the last thing I want on my favorite team
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

May 27 @ 7:22 PM ET
I liked this article. You made an arguement about Kessels value that had some merit, though left out a few things. You didn;t actually propose trades... good move as that would have been fishing for posts and caused keyboard riots. overall a solid piece.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 27 @ 7:22 PM ET
really? It's on the team and not Kessel? Because every mid season swan dive you guys have taken lately seems to coincide with kessel on a prolonged scoring slump

pretty sure you can't say it's one and not the other.

- Isles_since_6



In fairness, its not all Kessel, its poor management of constructing a team. If they had better defensemen and stopped the puck more, Kessel wouldn't be the reason
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