Murray probably doesn't like him. He's American
- HonkFortheGoose

Yea he's far from an average player
- sbroads24

Take him off the Hawks and he is, Niemi agree's

Murray probably doesn't like him. He's American
- HonkFortheGoose

I've never paid attention to him so I'm just going to go ahead and say he is awful...

Yea he's far from an average player
- sbroads24

nice set up on kreuger's almost goal

Take him off the Hawks and he is, Niemi agree's
- SABRES 89

And you know this how?


Watch him play, he's got talent.

And you know this how?


Watch him play, he's got talent.
- Sabresfan-365

Because the Hawks are a good complete team, you take him off that team and he's average

And you know this how?


Watch him play, he's got talent.
- Sabresfan-365

I don't think it matters. Doesn't seem like he's gonna be going anywhere.
http://chicago.suntimes.c...e-price-hawks-willing-pay

Because the Hawks are a good complete team, you take him off that team and he's average
- SABRES 89

He's better than average. What he isn't, is a superstar. I also think he's the type of player that Chicago will sign and worry about cap ramifications later.

Because the Hawks are a good complete team, you take him off that team and he's average
- SABRES 89

He creates just as many chances for his line mates as they do for him. He's not out there just piggy backing off of their success.

Take him off the Hawks and he is, Niemi agree's
- SABRES 89

Andrew Ladd disagrees. So what?

I don't think it matters. Doesn't seem like he's gonna be going anywhere.
http://chicago.suntimes.c...e-price-hawks-willing-pay
- HonkFortheGoose

I know, just don't understand the logic.

He's better than average. What he isn't, is a superstar. I also think he's the type of player that Chicago will sign and worry about cap ramifications later.
- buffalofan19

The Hawks will always find a way, Seabrook is another player that will finish his career with the Hawks. Good teams find ways, let's see what the Rangers do.

Andrew Ladd disagrees. So what?
- sbroads24

They are all great on the Hawks,

Andrew Ladd disagrees. So what?
- sbroads24

Ladd is another average player

Take him off the Hawks and he is, Niemi agree's
- SABRES 89

Ladd, Leddy and Byfuglien disagree

They are all great on the Hawks,
- SABRES 89

Ladd got better after leaving the Hawks

Ladd, Leddy and Byfuglien disagree
- CaptainRivet

Might as well add Niemi to that list. His lowest sv% was when he was with the hawks. He also has a 2.38 gaa since he's been In SJ.

Ladd is another average player
- SABRES 89

You misspelled Bylsma

You misspelled Bylsma
- sbroads24

Oh snap!

You misspelled Bylsma
- sbroads24

Another coach you don't approve of

Ladd got better after leaving the Hawks
- Sabresfan-365

True, but like Leddy and Byfuglien, you need players that are better, much better, than they are in order to be a championship caliber team. Saad is a nice player, and I would take him on my team in a second, but he absolutely falls into that category as well.

Another coach you don't approve of
- SABRES 89

Eh, I don't hate Bylsma. I'm ok with it

Might as well add Niemi to that list. His lowest sv% was when he was with the hawks. He also has a 2.38 gaa since he's been In SJ.
- HonkFortheGoose

Not to mention Ladd went from a third liner to a first liner when he was traded.

Brad richards for 2 years to help bring up and bridge up the youth?

If reinhart impresses, richards slides to the wing?

True, but like Leddy and Byfuglien, you need players that are better, much better, than they are in order to be a championship caliber team. Saad is a nice player, and I would take him on my team in a second, but he absolutely falls into that category as well.
- buffalofan19

That was my point though. Are we not trying to do the same? Is there anything to suggest his game would suffer playing with Eichel or Reinhart?